Re: Art, where's the buzz on nanotech saving America today?




Straydog wrote:
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006, Kamal R. Prasad wrote:


Straydog wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, Kamal R. Prasad wrote:


Threeducks wrote:
BMJ wrote:
Threeducks wrote:

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If the price of gas in Europe ($5/gal?) ever came into widespread pricing

how far are you from that? How could a fungible commodity have 2
different pricings?

Europe _taxes_ its gas to death. It effectively suppresses their urge to
drive any more than needed AND privides their government with a lot of
extra money for various nice things.


that isn't tbe reason for the difference in pricing. It costs less to
buy gas in the USA than in oil producing countries themselves!!

in the USA, you'd have tons of people go into farming to grow that corn.
And, yes, I think, too, its a perfectly reasonable thing to do.


yeah -that will help you to improve your image around the world,

Image? Just yesterday or the day before in the WSJ it showed data on
greenhouse gas production by the top 10 or so producers. Guess what the
order was something like US, Europe, Japan, China, India and the rate of
increase was like 200% per year for YOUR India (with all your "poor"
Indians buying cars, cell phones, computers, and TV/electronics), you are
becoming not just filthy/overpopulated but also resource consuming,
enviromental poluting pigs just like the USA, where the increase per year

yeah -as the economy opens up, it will rise in per capita
income/consumption in line with the country's productivity. Some of the
E. asian countries that were formerly castigated by americans as public
enemy no.1 also went though the same process and ended up providing a
market for american companies.

is much less than YOUR contry or China (where there is a vast increase,
also, in oil use and greenhouse gasses). So, along with YOUR image of
discrimination against the "castless" Dalits (thanks to Pratap's

the thing about affirmative action is that it is often roiled in the
politics of revenge. I have proved it to him conclusively that the
system allows people to elect their own representatives (and they
already have!!). Elected representatives are answerable to their voters
-and that is the most effective way of fixing problems.

explanations), manipulating your own Rupee (its not fully convertible),

do you know what capital account convertibility allows? It is not a
sign of manipulation and for the past couple of years -it has been
heading higher without pressure from the US, the way they seem to be
doing to China. The higher the rupee rises, the greater the purchasing
power of the country and the sooner we will be able to fix problems.

lobbying OUR politicians for YOUR gain, you guys definitely have
halos over your head that show a lot of rust, dust, and corrosion.

I knwo of companies that are sending work to India -and they are doing
so on their own.
If they find it cheaper to get work done here -they will do so without
anybody being bribed.

and it
will also reinforce the argument that keeping immigrants out

I think its impossible to keep the (poor) immigrants out, and the rich
ones are, as far as I'm concerned, welcome to come and bring their money
and help our economy instead of being a parasite.

why? I thought you said the world loves your dollars and that itself
entitles you to a better std of living. Just keep printing all you
want, and you can keep out foreigners of all types.

and
utilizing the land is what it takes to live a better life.

Your idea of our people leaving the cities and go live in tents or caves
out the country and plant seeds on little plots and live like serfs is
unreal.

I believe american farmers didn't live like serfs 50+ yrs back.
Stanford Univeristy was built by a californian farmer in memory of his
son and he was stinking rich.

Why don't you tell all of your progressive fellow Indians who want
cars, electronics, refrigerators, and electricity that they are wanting
the wrong things; tell them they should live in dust and dirt for the rest
of their lives and forget some basic material things (people have a right
to ask for if they can afford them) and see what mud they throw in your
face.

we have more people than the land can support if all of them took to
farming.
The converse holds true for you -lots of land and not enough people to
use it, which is why you have agricultural workers brought in from
overseas.

That kind of
brings us back to what I had suggested originally -go back to what you
have been good at -either farming

I thought you said all this farming was originally invented in India
thousands of years ago? And, nobody else in the world ever invented
farming?

never did I say that. Farming originated in Babylon -and moved to other
parts of the world from there.

or basic research.

Nobody does basic research any more. Its all geared to profit, now.

Many profit making companies do basic research. IBM does a lot of basic
research and some of their employees have won Nobel prizes doing so.
(It can yield a profit sometimes -but there is no way to know that
before hand). Since your cost of living is so off the mark -you had
better stick to doing things that are not cost sensitive or involve
physical presence in the US.

regards
-kamal

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