Re: uh-ah (more bashing of "skills shortage")


Entropy Fighter wrote:
> Straydog wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Entropy Fighter wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > BMJ wrote:
> > >
> > >> When I was an undergrad, I remember seeing pictures in the university
> > >> calendar showing students working with fancy equipment and computers. I
> > >> thought "Hey, neat!" and looked forward to getting my hands on all that
> > >> gear. As my studies progressed, much of that hardware was nowhere to be
> > >> seen, making me wonder whether I'd been swindled.
> > >
During my first yr of engg, students were stunned to see an institution
with near zero facilities and they had this line written on their face
:-
"Money back, else Im calling the police!!!"
One of the reasons why Indians are more into math and s/w is that they
have v few oppurtunities to deal with lab equipment, and the good news
is that it pays to deal with abstract stuff aka s/w.

> > > I was swindled even more. When in my home country, I was looking at the
> > > brochures on postgraduate education at Australian universities. I was
> > > sold on the idea to come to Australia to do PhD. I liked the view of
> > > the Australian cities and of the Australian nature, I liked the happy
> > > faces of the PhD students bent over the pieces of equipment. I wanted
> > > to become one of those happy faces.
> > >
> > > The reality could not be farther from the truth. My PhD advisor turned
> > > out to be a slavedriver; and there was not much of equipment in the
> > > lab; the research was low-tech. My advisor once said about our
> > > research: "There are scientific trail-blazers, they are like elephants
> > > -- and we cannot afford to be them; but there is still enough of work
> > > for us to do digging into the droppings left from the passed elephant".
> > > I could not find employment (any employment) after graduation, and
> > > conducted the existence at the substinence level most of the time
> > > since.
> > >
> > > Only after coming to Australia, I discovered that Australians (or
> > > English-speaking westerners in general) like to put a gloss spin onto
> > > the reality, and produce exclusively the pictures of successful people
> > > on the background of the impressive landscapes. It is a cultural thing
> > > to introduce people into false beliefs; to represent the matter in a
> > > better light than it is in reality. (The locals know it, and

No -it is the work of vested interests that may possess skin colour of
a particular kind.

> > > instinctively introduce corrections into the images they are presented
> > > with). I paid a price, I paid an unbearably high price for this
> > > knowledge. I might've been better off if I stayed in my home country.
> >
> > Welcome to capitalism!
>
> Here is an illustration of my point (it is about Canada, but it is
> applied to Australia, too):
>
> " 4. Money Hungry Government.
> Canadian Embassies around the world lie to foreigners, painting this
> picture that Canada
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> is Utopia, because they want them to come to Canada. Why? Because
> foreigners bring
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> money! So after being deceived, these foreigners come. They must bring
> with them at least $10,000. Canada has an immigration quota of 250,000
> per year. So please do the math, 250,000 multiplied by $10,000 each
> equals a whopping 2.5 Billion dollars that Canada gains from immigrants
> every year.
>
No -at one pt of time, the canadian govt did not have the $10000
requirement. But lots of people (some from India) cashed in on the open
immigration policy to become a state burden. Then, the canadian govt
put a $10000 limit which says that the state will not bear the burden
ofa newcomer till he can contribute something.

> " 1. No Jobs.
> Yes, coast to coast, there are no jobs. Immigrants are highly qualified
> (MD's, PhD's, Lawyers, Engineers etc.) but they are driving taxi cabs,
> delivering pizza's or working in factories. Even people with bachelors
> degrees from Canadian Universities cannot find jobs after graduation.

This is unfortunately v true and I hope other would-be immigrants to
the land of (no) oppurtunities realize this before falling into a trap.
Even if one does manage to get a job in his profession, it may not be
in line with his/her qualification. My first employer in calif
resembled a slave trader and it was futile talking about engineering
feasibility with him. The power of legislation is such that it can make
slaves out of well-educated people simply because of their nationality.

> This is the tragedy associated with immigration to Canada. I feel sorry
> for those immigrants who are stuck in Canada for the rest of their
> lives. It is indeed a very sad and hopeless future.
>
They can be considered "stuck" if they have bought a ton of immovable
property that is worth v little now. It isn't necessarily to do with
Canada. I have seen quite a few people from the US sell their property
and relocate to India (but that is usually after landing oneself a
job).

> " 8. Discriminatory and Dishonest Immigration System.
> Immigration to Canada is based on a point system, obtained with your
> education, qualifications and job experience. Points are good enough
> for immigration, but in Canada, they are not good enough to get a job
> in your field. Amazing, how the credentials that qualify you to come to
> Canada are the same credentials that don't qualify you for your
> profession in Canada. The reason is, Canada only wants immigrants to do
> the labor jobs - pizza delivery, driving taxis, factory work etc."
>
no -it is a case of the left hand of the govt not knowing what the
right hand is doing i.e. the credentials are not recognized across
national boundaries but weightage is given based on assumed potential
for employment after getting them ratified. That asude, jobs are
usually provided by the pvt sector and if the local public has a
problem finding jobs, foreigners are even more likely to face those
problems.

regards
-kamal

> http://www.caribbeanmedicine.com/notcanada/top8reasons.htm
>
> The general website is:
> http://notcanada.com/

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