Filthy little liar posting using sockpuppets Marcia, Deleted, Deleted (Marcia), Kali, The Other Kali, Sheer


Filthy little liar posting using sockpuppets
Marcia, Deleted, Deleted (Marcia), Kali, The Other Kali, Sheer
Hypocrisy, What Gave It Away, It ?????



From: Kali <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.support.attn-deficit,rec.running,sci.med,misc.writing

Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:36:03 -0500
Message-ID: <e77mud$gbc$2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


In article <1150745196.483111.257740
@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, posted 19 Jun 2006 12:26:36 -
0700, marcia desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...



The amphetamine use would go back to the previous doctor, though, not
the doctors in the hospital. I think the hospital doctors put her on
Depakeen and Geodon, if I'm interpreting another of her posts correctly.


Are you the one who outed all the personal information about
Twittering One across all these newsgroups? Have you no shame?

From: "marcia" <desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.support.attn-deficit,rec.running,sci.med,misc.writing

Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: 20 Jun 2006 06:33:05 -0700
Message-ID: <1150810385.895059.214450@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Kali wrote:
Are you the one who outed all the personal information about
Twittering One across all these newsgroups? Have you no shame?


No, Kali, I'm not. I'm discussing only information V herself has posted

to these public forums. I have no other personal information about V,
and don't correspond with her outside the forums. If I did, and if I
had any confidential information, I would certainly respect her
privacy.

Please don't make accusations and condemnations unless/until you're
sure the person you're accusing is guilty of something.


marcia


From: "marcia" <desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.support.attn-deficit,rec.running,sci.med,misc.writing

Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: 20 Jun 2006 06:53:00 -0700
Message-ID: <1150811580.617357.295...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Kali wrote:
What are you talking about? There are so many implications I
could potentially draw from these loosely associated questions
that I dare not address them without more context.


I think we have a pretty good handle on the kind of information that
would be useful. However, we can only work with the information we're
given.

Some of the questions you raised would be irrelevent, anyway,
because--even if we were qualified--it would be impossible to diagnose
someone over the internet *in retrospect.* Mania and drug-induced
psychosis can look very similar, even to doctors. There is apparently
no evidence to suggest she is schizophrenic. She rejects the bipolar
diagnosis completely.


Some of the medications used to treat schizophrenia, mania, and
drug-induced psychosis are the same, but we can't prescribe them, and
she doesn't want them.


You might want to read all of the posts in all of the related threads
in order to get up to speed before offering advice. Just a suggestion.


marcia


From: Kali <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.support.attn-deficit,rec.running,sci.med,misc.writing

Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:19:16 -0500
Message-ID: <e7ahbs$dd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


In article <1150811580.617357.295520
@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, posted 20 Jun 2006 06:53:00 -
0700, marcia desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...



I think we have a pretty good handle on the kind of information that
would be useful. However, we can only work with the information we're
given.



Right. And the details of her mental health are irrelevant to
the type of help she needs, even though a lot of ignorant people
are speculating about it; even calling for malpractice suits!
Sounds to me like all that can wait until she's safe somewhere
and working with a competent doctor and social worker. who will
- unlike strangers on Usenet - be in a position to assess her
problems and provide real help.


Some of the questions you raised would be irrelevent, anyway,
because--even if we were qualified--it would be impossible to diagnose
someone over the internet *in retrospect.*


Well, I know this, but it sure looked to me like this is exactly
what everyone was speculating about... amphetamine psychosis,
bipolar condition or not...


Mania and drug-induced
psychosis can look very similar, even to doctors. There is apparently
no evidence to suggest she is schizophrenic.


See your comment above. Here you are evaluating her condition
yet again.


She rejects the bipolar
diagnosis completely.


And this means what?


Some of the medications used to treat schizophrenia, mania, and
drug-induced psychosis are the same, but we can't prescribe them, and
she doesn't want them.


How is this relevant? Did you miss my point, entirely?


You might want to read all of the posts in all of the related threads
in order to get up to speed before offering advice. Just a suggestion.

marcia



No, my comments stand, only softened a bit by the fact that she,
herself, apparently has shared information in a bed of trolls.

I had an opinion about what I was seeing, and I voiced it.
That's all. I'm as powerless to help her as anyone else here is;
the difference is that I realize it, and I can deal with
helpless feelings without degenerating into irrelevant public
gossip and speculations about her condition and medications.
Sending money is a nice thought, if you know her. On the other
hand, it could be unwise. For everyone's sake, I hope it helps.


Kali
--
Reason can answer questions, but imagination has to ask them.
- Ralph Gerard


From: "marcia" <desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups:
alt.astronomy,alt.support.attn-deficit,rec.running,sci.med,misc.writing

Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: 21 Jun 2006 07:35:21 -0700
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Kali wrote:
Right. And the details of her mental health are irrelevant to
the type of help she needs, even though a lot of ignorant people
are speculating about it; even calling for malpractice suits!
Sounds to me like all that can wait until she's safe somewhere
and working with a competent doctor and social worker. who will
- unlike strangers on Usenet - be in a position to assess her
problems and provide real help.


All points that have been made to V. You're not providing any *new*
information. Many of us agree with that, and have tried to steer her in

that direction, but she is making different choices at the moment, and
we have to respect that. Other people on this NG have a different POV,
and your attacking them creates trouble.


Some of the questions you raised would be irrelevent, anyway,
because--even if we were qualified--it would be impossible to diagnose
someone over the internet *in retrospect.*

Well, I know this, but it sure looked to me like this is exactly
what everyone was speculating about... amphetamine psychosis,
bipolar condition or not...



Speculating, not diagnosing. The point of the speculation is that we
are trying to see things from V's POV so that she *might* be willing to

get help. She does not accept the bipolar dx and is rejecting help, at
least in part, because of that dx.


Mania and drug-induced
psychosis can look very similar, even to doctors. There is apparently
no evidence to suggest she is schizophrenic.

See your comment above. Here you are evaluating her condition
yet again.



No, I'm responding to someone else's speculation. She has been treated
for ADD with Dexedrine and has recently been dx'd bipolar. She has
never, to my knowledge, been dx'd schizophrenic, even when apparently
psychotic. The points I made were based on factual evidence gleaned
from other posts (because I read *all* of them, not just a handful).


She rejects the bipolar
diagnosis completely.

And this means what?



That she refuses to take medication for bipolar disorder and refuses to

work with the doctors who gave her this diagnosis. The more the bipolar

dx is pushed on her, the less inclined she seems to be to accept it.
Therefore, the best course, imo, is for *us* to back off of that point.



Some of the medications used to treat schizophrenia, mania, and
drug-induced psychosis are the same, but we can't prescribe them, and
she doesn't want them.

How is this relevant? Did you miss my point, entirely?



No. YOU missed the point. The questions you were asking were irrelevent

to the NG because we can't diagnose or treat her problems. My point
was, regardless of the *cause* of the psychosis she apparently
experienced (which you claimed we needed to know the root cause of),
the medical treatment would include antipsychotics. Your point was
moot.


You might want to read all of the posts in all of the related threads
in order to get up to speed before offering advice. Just a suggestion.

marcia


No, my comments stand, only softened a bit by the fact that she,
herself, apparently has shared information in a bed of trolls.



You don't understand the dynamics of this group. I'm new here myself,
but not so new that I think the people you're referring to (for the
most part) are trolls. Many are her long-time friends, who may share
V's POV. If we don't respect that, we risk antagonizing not only the
poster, but also V. Would that be a positive outcome? There's a wide
range of opinions expressed here, some of which may not be seen as
helpful by some of us; however, condemning people does nothing but
inflame the situation.


I had an opinion about what I was seeing, and I voiced it.
That's all. I'm as powerless to help her as anyone else here is;
the difference is that I realize it, and I can deal with
helpless feelings without degenerating into irrelevant public
gossip and speculations about her condition and medications.
Sending money is a nice thought, if you know her. On the other
hand, it could be unwise. For everyone's sake, I hope it helps.


You expressed your opinion without being aware of *any* of the salient
facts of the situation. You *started* by accusing *me* of spreading V's

personal information all over the internet, and suggested I have "no
shame," without any evidence to support your conclusion. In fact, I'm a

relative late-comer to this issue, and have only discussed what V,
herself, has publicly shared.

The points you've made have already been made over and over again by
people in this NG. You've added nothing new. In reality, the only thing

you've done is agitate, which is difficult to see as a helpful
contribution.


marcia


From: Kali <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:06:50 -0500
Message-ID: <e7bna2$mk...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>


In article <1150900521.547794.18000
@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, posted 21 Jun 2006 07:35:21 -
0700, marcia desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...




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Kali wrote:
Right. And the details of her mental health are irrelevant to
the type of help she needs, even though a lot of ignorant people
are speculating about it; even calling for malpractice suits!
Sounds to me like all that can wait until she's safe somewhere
and working with a competent doctor and social worker. who will
- unlike strangers on Usenet - be in a position to assess her
problems and provide real help.


All points that have been made to V. You're not providing any *new*
information. Many of us agree with that, and have tried to steer her in
that direction, but she is making different choices at the moment, and
we have to respect that. Other people on this NG have a different POV,
and your attacking them creates trouble.


Some of the questions you raised would be irrelevent, anyway,
because--even if we were qualified--it would be impossible to diagnose
someone over the internet *in retrospect.*


Well, I know this, but it sure looked to me like this is exactly
what everyone was speculating about... amphetamine psychosis,
bipolar condition or not...


Speculating, not diagnosing. The point of the speculation is that we
are trying to see things from V's POV so that she *might* be willing to
get help. She does not accept the bipolar dx and is rejecting help, at
least in part, because of that dx.


Mania and drug-induced
psychosis can look very similar, even to doctors. There is apparently
no evidence to suggest she is schizophrenic.


See your comment above. Here you are evaluating her condition
yet again.


No, I'm responding to someone else's speculation. She has been treated
for ADD with Dexedrine and has recently been dx'd bipolar. She has
never, to my knowledge, been dx'd schizophrenic, even when apparently
psychotic. The points I made were based on factual evidence gleaned
from other posts (because I read *all* of them, not just a handful).


She rejects the bipolar
diagnosis completely.


And this means what?


That she refuses to take medication for bipolar disorder and refuses to
work with the doctors who gave her this diagnosis. The more the bipolar
dx is pushed on her, the less inclined she seems to be to accept it.
Therefore, the best course, imo, is for *us* to back off of that point.



No, the best coure, IMNSHO, is for you all to stop gossiping and
speculating.


Some of the medications used to treat schizophrenia, mania, and
drug-induced psychosis are the same, but we can't prescribe them, and
she doesn't want them.

How is this relevant? Did you miss my point, entirely?


No. YOU missed the point. The questions you were asking were irrelevent
to the NG because we can't diagnose or treat her problems. My point
was, regardless of the *cause* of the psychosis she apparently
experienced (which you claimed we needed to know the root cause of),
the medical treatment would include antipsychotics. Your point was
moot.



You missed the point entirely, as I suspected.

My post to Double-A was an attempt to drive home a point that
sailed over everyone's head. I know full well that she can't
answer those questions. Neither can you.


Nobody can answer those questions, and they are irrelevant.


Get the point, now?



You might want to read all of the posts in all of the related threads
in order to get up to speed before offering advice. Just a suggestion.

marcia


No, my comments stand, only softened a bit by the fact that she,
herself, apparently has shared information in a bed of trolls.


You don't understand the dynamics of this group. I'm new here myself,



Where is "here"?


but not so new that I think the people you're referring to (for the
most part) are trolls.


alt.astronomy: chock full of trolls.

alt.support.attn-deficit: support group; perhaps the only place
any of this should be discussed, if at all.


rec.running: off topic, and people have asked you to stop
xposting


sci.med: Looking for free medical advice?


misc.writing: irrelevant group; requests for xposts to stop.


I've removed the xposts and left the support group in for you.



Many are her long-time friends, who may share
V's POV. If we don't respect that, we risk antagonizing not only the
poster, but also V. Would that be a positive outcome? There's a wide
range of opinions expressed here, some of which may not be seen as
helpful by some of us; however, condemning people does nothing but
inflame the situation.


Look: her diagnosis, supposed addiction or psychosis, etc., is
irrelevant. Relevant, but not necessarily anyone's business is
this:

Is she employed? I take it she is not.


Is she disabled? Does she qualify for SSDI (retroactive, even)
or public assistance? She won't get any of it unless she seeks
help.


At some point, sending her money and reifying her fears about
seeking help from qualified professionals will make her more
helpless than she would seem to be already.


She is not a child, and she is not your child. She is an
independent woman. There are resources available to her. I would
encourage her to help herself and seek out those resources.



I had an opinion about what I was seeing, and I voiced it.
That's all. I'm as powerless to help her as anyone else here is;
the difference is that I realize it, and I can deal with
helpless feelings without degenerating into irrelevant public
gossip and speculations about her condition and medications.
Sending money is a nice thought, if you know her. On the other
hand, it could be unwise. For everyone's sake, I hope it helps.

You expressed your opinion without being aware of *any* of the salient
facts of the situation.



It's irrelevant. What you are all doing now is ridiculous,
whether or not at some historical point it had some meaning.


You *started* by accusing *me* of spreading V's
personal information all over the internet,


No. I asked you a question.

and suggested I have "no



shame," without any evidence to support your conclusion.


I asked you a question, based on a pending supposition.

In fact, I'm a



relative late-comer to this issue, and have only discussed what V,
herself, has publicly shared.

The points you've made have already been made over and over again



No, they haven't. Empirically I know this to be true because the
point sailed over your head.

by


people in this NG. You've added nothing new. In reality, the only thing
you've done is agitate, which is difficult to see as a helpful
contribution.

marcia



Well, you can all continue the intense codependent drama or you
can be healthy enough to know your limitations in the situation
and empower "V." to help herself. Your choice. Good luck.

Kali
--
Reason can answer questions, but imagination has to ask them.
- Ralph Gerard


From: "marcia" <desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: 21 Jun 2006 08:48:05 -0700
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.24.239.69



Kali wrote:
In article <1150900521.547794.18000
@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, posted 21 Jun 2006 07:35:21 -
0700, marcia desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...
No, the best coure, IMNSHO, is for you all to stop gossiping and
speculating.


Not so humble would be my assessment, too. You might try respecting
other people's opinions and considering the validity of their POV
*before* rushing to declare how right you are.


You missed the point entirely, as I suspected.


My post to Double-A was an attempt to drive home a point that
sailed over everyone's head. I know full well that she can't
answer those questions. Neither can you.


Nobody can answer those questions, and they are irrelevant.


Get the point, now?



Which is the point I made. So apparently *you* missed that.

I <snipped> the rest because arguing with you is tiresome and
pointless. You don't seem to want to have a discussion, only to demand
that your POV is the only one that's "right". I suspect it's a good
thing you're not going into clinical work, if the information
suggesting that is correct.


If you have anything further to say to me, feel free to email.


To the group:


It's my observation that V hasn't participated in this thread for the
past week. Therefore, I suspect she isn't finding any of this helpful,
so I'm done participating.


If there's any way I can be of assistance to V, please let me know.


marcia


From: "Sue me for posting facts" <Indomitab...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit,sci.med
Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: 21 Jun 2006 13:35:33 -0700
Message-ID: <1150922133.563907.15...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>



marcia wrote:
CommonSense1 wrote:
I think she's seeking admittance to Cornell U Hospital today, or that's
what she wrote me this morning and last night.

The recommendation for SJW was cool, but everything else.... you forgot
that the CIA is behind it all.


Good to hear.



Virginia's personal story is Virginia's story;-therefore, a personal
story she alone gets to tell where, when, and to whom V chooses to.

From: "marcia" <desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: 21 Jun 2006 13:50:37 -0700
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Sigh. I thought we had a detente going here.


It sounds like V has *chosen* to check into Cornell, which I do think
is good to hear. It sounds like she's *decided* she wants to try to get

help from them. I don't see any indication of force. It appears she's
exercising free will. Do you read it differently?


It has never been my intention to "gossip" about V; however, since
she's declined to continue participating in this topic, I'm trying to
withdraw (although I seem to keep having to defend myself, for some
reason), because yes, parts of the thread are beginning to seem like
gossip, which does not appear to be helping V.


I've expressed my opinions, and they stand. I think the topic/thread
has gotten so long, and so involved that people have forgotten (or
never knew, as in Kali) who stood where.


In my heart, I believe everyone here wants the best for V, so all this
fighting makes me feel sad and tired. I hope this isn't the situation
she returns to.


marcia
(who is not the enemy, despite perceptions to the contrary)


From: "Sue me for posting facts" <Indomitab...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
Subject: Re: If You Would Like to Help Twittering One ...
Date: 21 Jun 2006 15:40:12 -0700
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marcia wrote:
Sue me for posting facts wrote:
marcia wrote:
CommonSense1 wrote:
I think she's seeking admittance to Cornell U Hospital today, or that's
what she wrote me this morning and last night.

The recommendation for SJW was cool, but everything else.... you forgot
that the CIA is behind it all.


Good to hear.


IMO, only another gossip monger would imagine it's *good* to read any
of the gossip which Commonsense1 has been publishing about Virginia in
public forums having a global distribution.


Virginia's personal story is Virginia's story;-therefore, a personal
story she alone gets to tell where, when, and to whom V chooses to.


Sigh. I thought we had a detente going here.



I believe your heart is in the right place.


It sounds like V has *chosen*


sigh...

Do you always repeat gossip when someone objects to being made the
recipient of gossip?


I base my replies to Virginia based upon what Virginia's says because
Virginia is the only ASAD poster who possesses first hand knowledge of
what's transpired/transpiring.


I have zero interest in what 3rd parties *say*---because everything 3rd

parties say is secondhand knowledge and totally and completely
unreliable for myriad reasons.


From: "deleted (marcia)" <desi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
Subject: Re: Torturing myself for no real reason--have Attention
Deficit Disorder and OCD/Anxiety/Panic Disorder
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As for me, I was on the receiving end of a 45-minute lecture from my
pdoc yesterday about my excessive involvement in Usenet, with a
*strong* suggestion that I spend the next 30 days getting *off* the
internet and back into the 3D world. The lecture better have been on
the house, because I can't really afford *that* much of his time. ;)


nfortunately, I've become so overinvolved in Usenet (not just here;
I've posted other places, too) that, for the last two months or so,
it's been *all* I've done. Literally. From the time I wake up in the
morning until the time I go to bed at night, I'm sitting here reading
and posting, reading and posting. Then, all this stuff swirls in my
mind as I lay in bed, and I end up getting about 1/2 the sleep I need.
I've neglected my family, my house, my work (I create and sell 3d
computer models), and my mental health because I've become so obsessed
with Usenet.


For now, I have to wean myself away from this world and try to get back



to my regular life. My marketing rep at the model broker called a
couple of weeks ago because my productivity has fallen off to nothing,
and I pretty much ignored his advice that I get back on top of things.
My pdoc is right; I just have to stop or I won't *have* a life in the
3D world any more. You all seem much better at balancing your on-line
use with your real lives, so this isn't meant as a blanket statement
about other people.


From: "Sue me for posting facts" <Indomitab...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit
Subject: Re: FAO: Marcia
Date: 27 Jun 2006 23:13:23 -0700
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deleted wrote:
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote:
You still out there? All your posts suddenly disappeared from Google.

Kitten


They're not all gone. I'm working on it. I left the ones with the
grants and stuff, in case groups is the only place you have them
stored.


marcia



Your posts were like a breath of fresh air...so, I'm sorry to see you

go.

but, it's truly unwise for psychiatric patient to participate on ASAD
owing to ASAD beign a favorite venue of pharmaceutical marketeers and

stalkers and other miscreants who exploit the lack of critical
thinking skills and/or other vulnerabilities of psychiatric
patients and USE them as pawns in potentially dangerous psychopathic

zero sum games they cyclically play on ASAD.


Best Wishes,


Linda


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From: "SHEER HYPOCRISY" <nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sue me for posting facts wrote:


Mwahaha! You don't see your own hypocrisy????


Illuminator does exactly what you've done and you call him Lying
Stalking Filth? Do you realize that's how most people see YOU?


Oh, that's right. You're in pursuit of the TRUTH haha... The truth
about YOU would turn most people GREEN. And NOT with ENVY!


From: "Kali" <nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Whatever happened to Linda?
Date: 1 Jul 2006 08:45:03 -0700
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I've been gone awhile and have returned to so many new faces! I notice
one really surprising change. No sign of Linda Gore. Whatever happened
to her?


From: "The Other Kali" <nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx>
Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Linda?
Date: 1 Jul 2006 11:05:06 -0700
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Kali wrote:
The dead wear many faces...

Kali
--
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former
begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.
Hippocrates (c460-c.377 BCE) Greek physician. Law



Sorry, I didn't realize there were two of us. I've changed my nym.
Maybe I'll have to make up a name.

What do you mean, "The dead wear many faces


From: "The Other Kali" <nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Linda?
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The dead wear many faces...
Kali
--
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former
begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.
Hippocrates (c460-c.377 BCE) Greek physician. Law


I'm not Linda or a friend of Linda's (is anyone?), if that's what you
meant. It's just strange not to see her here when she'd been causing
trouble in this forum for years. I guess I've been gone too long.

From: "It" <nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Linda?
Date: 2 Jul 2006 11:50:27 -0700
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Pierre Capot wrote:
The dead wear many faces...
So I noticed. Now it can claim professional status from its new base:
The crypt.
yup, I like how it claimed not to know there already was a Kali.. yet
s/h/it knew all about Linda stinking up the place...


"It" was curious to find out if LG really was "netdead," because that's


what "it" had heard. "It" used to hang out here many years ago (think
Mark and John era), but "it" didn't remember a Kali from back then.
"It" has always liked that name and was surprised to find a "Kali"
already here. Sorry to Kali.


"It" was hoping someone would be more specific about why LG was
netdead, although "it" suspects bizarre, paranoid accusations may have
had something to do with it. Back in the day, this NG had a lot of
professionals posting. LG always attacked them. Now "it" sees they're
gone and wonders what happened. Not much posting now.


Yes, "it" is a sock puppet, but not one that will cause problems here.
"It" is only looking for information. "It" would suck big time as a
spy.


"It"


From: "It" <nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Linda?
Date: 2 Jul 2006 13:59:10 -0700
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pierre Capot wrote:
On 2 Jul 2006 11:50:27 -0700, in sci.psychology.psychotherapy "It"
<nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Go away. Those clothes and your attempts to seem to be 'in' with regulars
make you seem risible; a poor Parthian shot.


I will go away, since I'm not getting what I'd hoped for. I have to
say, though, your ability to deduce the truth from my posts is about as


poor as my ability to act as a spy using a sock puppet.


I have been gone from this group for 6 or more years. I only exchanged
a few emails with John, none with Mark (and only recently learned what
became of him), and a few more with the female psychoanalyst whose name



I no longer remember (but who doesn't seem to be here now, anyway). But



if she is here, maybe the vagina dentata necklace will ring a bell with



someone. I also remember there was an expert on autism and PDDs here,
who moderated/participated in an autism NG also, but I don't remember
her name, either. What do you expect after 6, 7 years?


The fact that I don't know Kali or Kym means nothing. I was a MINOR
participant, but I know this is where I first encountered LG, and I
have heard that she had problems with this group. That's why I came
HERE looking for information.


I am being harassed by LG under a different nym on a different forum
and was looking for some information I might use TO MAKE HER GO AWAY.
It should be obvious why I don't want to use my real name.


That's the ONLY reason I came here. I don't expect you to believe me.


Sorry to make you paranoid. :(


From: "It" <nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Whatever happened to Linda?
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Pierre Capot wrote:
On 2 Jul 2006 13:59:10 -0700, in sci.psychology.psychotherapy "It"
<nowyouk...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I have been gone from this group for 6 or more years. I only exchanged
a few emails with John, none with Mark (and only recently learned what
became of him), and a few more with the female psychoanalyst whose name
I no longer remember (but who doesn't seem to be here now, anyway). But
if she is here, maybe the vagina dentata necklace will ring a bell with
Fiona Webster <not her real name> no posts longer here, unless she does so
under another name.


Yes, Fiona. That was it.


someone. I also remember there was an expert on autism and PDDs here,
who moderated/participated in an autism NG also, but I don't remember
her name, either.
Possibly you mean Leslie Packer, but Leslie works in the field of Tourette
syndrome and doesn't moderate.


I do mean Leslie, and you're right, it was Tourette... sorry, but I
haven't thought about this stuff in a very long time.


What do you expect after 6, 7 years?
The Usenet standard of using google to research? A clue? Sensitivity from
someone who knows about the history of harassment in spp? D'oh?


I apologize for the way I approached you at first. I hate to admit that


my hope was someone would say something that would divert her attention



away from the places she is now back to here... yes, I was trying to
foist her back on you, but I figured since she was "netdead" (or what I



heard) no one would really care. My mistake. My apologies.


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The fact that I don't know Kali or Kym means nothing. I was a MINOR
participant, but I know this is where I first encountered LG, and I
have heard that she had problems with this group. That's why I came
HERE looking for information.
Something that you could not find in google, I assume.
I am being harassed by LG under a different nym on a different forum
and was looking for some information I might use TO MAKE HER GO AWAY.
It should be obvious why I don't want to use my real name.
Not exactly consistent with your earlier attempts at showing insight on
the disruption in spp right?
My advice; If you truly have a problem with her pronounce her publicly
net.dead. No amount of interaction will work with some harassers, and she
is definitely one of them. Drop her; if she's making trouble with you,
it's because we won't let her *** with us, ditto other people elsewhere.
Now I've said enough, since I should know better than to discourse with
someone hiding their identity when debating a sensitive subject.
HAND.


It should be clear why I'm hiding my identity. I don't want the attacks


stepped up. I see that she's still posting to some here, so revealing
myself would create problems for me. Not revealing myself creates no
problems for you, since most people are using nyms or partial nyms.


Sorry to have bothered you, and thanks for the advice.


cnf

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