Re: Brad lies
- From: Pierre Capot <peter¿hood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:22:33 +0000
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:58:50 -0800, in sci.psychology.psychotherapy Iceman
<1c3m4n@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:30:14 +0000, Pierre Capot wrote:
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:46:50 -0800, in sci.psychology.psychotherapy Iceman
<1c3m4n@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:20:01 +0000, Pierre Capot wrote:
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You waste your time, casting your perls <LOL> before dead 'offensively
eccentric' swine. Correction; it would be better off grazing on the
side of a Welsh hill. Four legs baaaaad two leeeeegs goooood.
Hey, know much about booting from USB? I've got some emergency tools
<Partition Magic, F-Prot> on one that I made bootable, but wondered
how the hell to get access to the NTFS volumes from the prompt. I've
had a few bad steers. My favourite's at the bottom; if only things
were that simple.
The 300Mb file recommended by Bart is not available from the MS site.
I'm waiting for a reply from Microsoft, but suspect it'll take 'a long
time'.
http://www.oreillynet.com/digitalmedia/blog/2004/10/utility_to_make_usb
_flash_driv.html
Now go to the run command and type in cmd for the command prompt. Here
comes my favorite command because it brings me back to my dos days.
Now type this is, of course substituting your USB drive letter for the
part where it says drive letter here.
format (drive letter here): /FS:NTFS /X
Now, once this has been completed, here is the trick, open up My
Computer, and go up to and click, tools, options, view, and click on
Show hidden files and folders, and uncheck Hide protected operating
system files(recommended), click yes to the dialog box warning you
about this, and then click apply and then ok. Ok, now click on your C
Drive and browse down the the files ntdetect and ntldr and COPY them
to the base folder of your flash drive.
Now your done.
If this doesn't work, right click on the My Computer icon and then
select Manage. Now go down to the Disk Management title on the left
side of the window and click on it. This will load the logical disk
manager and allow you to check to see if your USB drive has the
partition set to active. If it doesn't, right click on the lower
window where it gives the information to your USB drive, and select
Mark Partition as active.
His USB boot section at his own site is curiously devoid of responses
to enquiries. :'-)
It would be handy if I could have a NTFS boot drive, without the silly
advice that I've had so far, in spite of extensive searching.
I feel sure that it must be somehow possible to kludge the 8 disc
floppy set, but can't figure it.
File of the day
http://www.filecabi.net/video/bikerexcited.html
Still makes me cry. I *never* take my eyes off the road.
I haven't had the need to boot from USB yet. But uh... if you're only
copying over ntdetect and ntldr I can't see how it's going to do you much
good lol...
My point exactly! Why he had to go through the song and dance of using
cmd.com is beyond me also. Perhaps he thinks himself the Big Daddy of DOS
but, six months after his boast, he has said nothing.
I'll make a point of letting you know if/when I've cracked it.
Sounds to me like that's an emergency boot disk setup. The same files as
used when booting from a floppy in case the HD boot tables got screwed up.
You can find that info easy in MS knowledge base. It would only feed you
into your OS just as if you had booted from the HD. Not much gained. If you
are doing this to check for virus' then you could simply boot to safe mode
and do a cleanup from there. (some virus checkers will not run in safe
mode.) Runing spybot from safe mode will catch things otherwise not
trapable when running normally in 32 bit mode.
If you want to check out the drive stealth like, then make a USB mem stick
bootable with a Linux variant. You can use tools from there and it will
read NTFS anything. :) I suspect you could also run a dos emulator for
other things as well from a mem stick.
...or boot into a virus check before Windows starts. The spybot
information is useful, for which thank you.
One clue that you can use for when a safe disk is necessary is when SpyBot
seems to run extraordinarily fast, there are a couple programs out that
make it think it has done its work, or you, thus faking it out. A drop to
safe mode generally works and will get the critters out. I had occasion to
do this recently on a system that got infected, seems everyone in the white
hat blogs were trying to figure out how to clear it out. This one BTW
dropped an admin account to "user", safe mode put the system back to
normal.
That's interesting. I put about six on any system that I install.
Something interesting came up though. I've found on occasion that Spybot S
& D will forget that something has been white listed; I've just dropped by
to see my mum and found something more interesting. When the machine
booted into windows the small message pane repeatedly appeared reporting
that something had been blocked; this happened so quickly that the right
side of her screen was filled by a perpetual series of messages, all for
the same BHO that I white listed when I installed her system, about 2
years ago.
It was like watching an old fashioned, flickering film. Eventually the
<legitimate> BHO gave up, but she's had to put up with it for a whole
session on occasion. The log is enormous.
Anyhow, I don't mind a false positive but the neurophysiologist/
psychophysiologist in me notes that where there are false positives there
can be false negatives, and that is why I have so many tools. Oh yes, it's
six plus Outpost, for which I have a lifetime licence, so I have the anti
Trojan capacity built in, with updates.
I've done it anyhow. I've a windows PE installation on my 1 Gb flash disk,
with 27 plug ins, including Acronis True Image, Clam Win, Stinger,
AdAware, file managers, and much more. I'll search out a few more plug ins
for the fun of it. It's got a native firewall - probably the one from
Windoze - and networking.
What I have needed and now have is something that can boot Acronis True
Image and also give me a CLI/file management. TI's Linux boot disc will
work, but can't 'see' the DVD-RW from which it boots <boggle>.
Acronis have been working on this with me, and have been very good. So far
the custom boot images they've given me have not worked on this machine. I
think it's mostly due to the SATA drive/driver compatibilities.
With Acronis on the USB drive and with a CLI/file manager I can first a)
extract single files from the desktop part of the subdirectory system and
other 'difficult' places and then b) restore images from DVD .
The problem: browsing an Acronis image within windows creates a virtual
drive; windows treats this as if it is 'alien' so far as system
subdirectories and some files are concerned; it locks them and prevents
access. Thus, if I've not had time to back up any work files that have to
be on C:, including new links - links for research, not fun - I can evac
them either by CLI or file manager, and then restore using the Acronis
plug in.
Interestingly I can't get Knoppix on a CD to boot. I've got DSL and Puppy,
but they don't suit my requirements, as you can see.
Because I don't have a floppy I want and have something bootable and,
because I have a genuine install disc <not an image restore> that I've
slip streamed with SP 2, I've got the sort of boot disc and control I
became accustomed to using in DOS based systems.
I didn't want to pay Symantec to upgrade Ghost. I am bloody pleased with
myself.
And well you should be. At first I didn't think you'd need to upgrade
Ghost, but then I remembered SATA. :( Goes for me too.
Since you cannot get the DVD to /or on boot I suspect it is a problem with
the MB drivers, your board is too new. I've been using a Linux boot CD
linked to a USB stick and haven't as yet done a USB boot personally.
Interestingly, when I made my PE CD-ROM it failed on precisely those
grounds, because the PE software couldn't find the drivers on the
installation disk. This is standard, and I think there is a work around,
only I don't have time.
Too much driving today, and I didn't break any speed limits, much. <g>
Something I will just have to do soon. So much easier to carry a stick as
opposed to a CC CD.
Smaller than a credit card. I have Bart PE on the 1Gb one, and a DOS
bootable 256 Mb stick, that can cure problems on windows/DOS based
systems, if the machine has USB boot capability... ...is there a non XP/NT
DOS environment that has USB drivers and can be run on a floppy?
Config.sys arguments shouldn't be a problem, but would a MS-DOS or similar
system have the ability to run USB? Heh, just did ver from the prompt here
and got this:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
I thought they were up to a higher number than that?
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