Re: Kevin: Let's see if I have this correct...

Actually, I do not have a powerful disliking for education (as you say).
I have a strong liking for science. I has 2 majors in college:
psychology and General Science (a bunch of various science courses).
(And, yes, I do have a M.A. in Ed Psyc.)

I also value experience.

But, I also have researched ( YES you can research without a Ph.D.)
counselor selection and I believe VERY much in prudent selection -- as
perhaps the best way to improve counseling (esp. if they continue for
another few decades not to do the obvious needed foundation research --
see http://cyberper.cnc.net ). I still think selection of good
candidates will always be very important and they do a damned poor job of
it now.


"Harry" <harryhhaller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:1125609771.189452.193500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:

>
> NayNay wrote:
>> What I really believe is that for the vast majority of
>> problems: a peer counselor, who can be seen more often and
>> more cheaply, is probably better -- and there still to this
>> day is no research to refute this. A well-adapted briefly-
>> trained and educated and well-suited individual may very well
>> most often be better than the "therapists" today. (Hell, the
>> great Carl Rogers himself believed this -- not to be confused
>> in any way or form with "Dan")
>>
>> I also really believe the NEEDED counseling for most people
>> should involve NO insurance and be (in effect) FREE!
>>
>> I think paying for counseling is an evil, just as a for-profit
>> health care system is absolutely an evil.
>>
>>
>> "Harry" <harryhhaller@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
>> news:1125608563.398276.71020 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > Once I had an old colleague who'd start sentences with "research
>> > has shown....".Everybody in the room would groan.You really think
>> > no client (or customer) benefits from therapy?
>> >
>
>
>
> I never liked handling money and sorta felt strange getting paid for
> soul work.Still,a few of the classes were helpful.But there are some
> very good therapists out there who wouldn't be as effective if they
> had no training.
> I did some counseling before the education and I know I was better
> after exposure to ideas and some intelligent thoughtful people.Life
> experience usually made the most difference in the effectiveness of a
> therpist.You have a powerful disliking for education,don't you?
>> >
>
>

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