Re: Displacement Current Demonstration

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:01:50 GMT, "Bill Miller"
<BillMillerKT4YE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello John...

I had a chance to browse the first article on your site
I'm honored you took the time to browse, but apparently you found
therein, nothing that met your standard.

I also took the time to launch your 36/2 gif's only to be met each
time, with chagrin, by such copybook jewels as E = V/d. Why would we
care if you were able to assemble the whole lot in one grand
presentation, like a chapter out of Audel's Electrician's Handbook?
There's nothing there.

You evidently ally yourself in the SI camp, recognizing eps0, and
endorse permittivity (contrary to the cgs/ers). On the other hand, how
could you then think displacment current was a myth?

So why do you not take time out to wonder, as I did, how there could
be real permittivity? Your big Maxwellian leap was to specify dQ/dt as
something of significance, but I was not able to perceive its import
and there are too many gifs to try to remember which one I wanted to
check. I think it gets current down the wire to the plates, but what
then? Divide by A and it's on the plates? What's next?
Have you considered that from reasons of continuity, D would
necessarukt continue as a point function throughout the dielectric?
You don't think that's interesting, or you don't believe it?

You raise an interesting question when you wonder, in a vacuum, if there is
nothing there, then what is the permittivity of "nothing."

You are the one who said it was the permittivity of nothing. Pray tell
me where the energy is stored in a parallel plate capacitor. It can't
be avoided: electric energy is stored, we know that, but we are
interested to know where you think it is stored. If in the vacuum,
then whence the charges? If on the plates, take off your SI hat and
discard permittivity.

But I don't believe there is enough in your presentation to make the leap
from that question to a postulated dualspace. I recognize that there may be
more "meat." in the other papers, but your initial presentation doesn't
inspire me to go the next step.

There's far more content in the paper than would be evident to a cynic
who scans.

Part of the problem is that there are grammatical and syntax errors. The
style is informal, and seems to contain some "leaps of faith" that may be
obvious to you, but were not obvious to me.

Leaps of logic are part of new science, and only with subsequent
testing is it possible to judge its failure or success.

You have had several years to identifiy those issues, but -- to the eye --
it looks like it was put together as a first draft, published it, and
haven't looked at it since. Not something that builds confidence.

You're right I haven't touched it for a couple of years, but I did
today and will repost it shortly. I would be grateful if you would
list the syntax errors.
Sorry, but I was not convinced.

Bill


"John C. Polasek" <jpolasek@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You might like to look at my website http://www.dualspace.net. Look at
paper #1, "Permittivity" for a practical demonstration of displacement
current. .
There you will see a picture of a commercial vacuum capacitor rated
over 135 amperes of AC current and over 5,000 volts. The current is
given by C dV/dt = dQ/dt = I.
The current is being carried by charge pairs *in the vacuum* not as
charges sitting on the plates, as I tried meticulously to demonstrate
in the rest of the paper.
Notice from the analysis I was able to find the Youngs modulus Y and
mass density rho which together give the transmission velocity of c.
The virtual pairs make Espace or pairspace that actually carries
signals now credited to the empty vacuum.
John Polasek

John Polasek
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