Re: US Ships of the Line (was Re: Boeing getting bad news in Paris)


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Ray O'Hara wrote:

the Nazis were Fascist.

No they were not, there were significant differences between
National Socialism and Fascism not least of which was that
many Fascists were jewish.

What they had in common was that they were totalitarian
regimes--the Evil Nanny state, if you will.

They had that in common with the USSR too, I wonder if Ray
thinks Stalin was a fascist ?

Keith



you confuse politics with economics.
the NAZIs were corporatists not socialists.

They were more socialist than capitalist. Companies were subject to
state control without being nationalized. Take a look at what
happened to Junkers or Ford of Germany.

Both were placed under state control when their managements were
considered insufficiently compliant. The bottom line was that a CEO
could be sent to a 'reeducation camp' if he failed to toe the line.

As Time magazine put it in 1938

"The most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler &
Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once
backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany's bourgeois
economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the
individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some
businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to
a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly
controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and
interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of
all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated
last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well
as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many
instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally
similar to Russian Communism." Keith


yeah they remained in pvt hands and made huge profits.

Actually they didn't

Look at business in the Allied countries. it submitted to wartime
conditions too.

Indeed but only AFTER war was declared, in Germany they were
placed under government control BEFORE the war.


A war was already planned by Hitler. so ity moots your point.


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