Re: The nightmares ends today

On Jan 28, 9:34 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Jan 28, 8:57 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



In article <66f482e2-08b3-4380-90a9-5caae6a5b861
@h16g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx says...

On Jan 28, 1:40 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <2c77e6a4-1d98-469d-9c5c-9c8a37003d92
@n2g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx says...

On Jan 26, 10:33 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <d3edd1dd-db83-4280-a42b-19e0c8355923
@x14g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, jacklinthi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx says...

On Jan 26, 1:21 am, tankfixer <paul.carr...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <gl567n$8f...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, bberesf...@xxxxxxxxx
says...

Derek Lyons wrote:
"Raymond O'Hara" <raymond-oh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

WOOOHOOOO.
good riddance dubya.

Meanwhile the same old rascals and their party and corporate masters
remain in the House and Senate - hell, the new VP is one of their
oldest spear carriers.

And your most recent VP wasn't and or isn't ?
Can you say  Halliburton ?
Alltogether now.......Sure...

You miss the point.
The new adminstration promised change and brought only the same kind of
crowd we've had for decades.

You see people I see policies. Watch what they do not who they are.
George and *** would even contemplate any of the following, let alone
actually implement them.

Lessee now: close Guantanamo,

Now ?
You mean in a year.. or more.

let states regulate auto emissions,

Now that will sure help the auto industry out..

    *  Doubling the production of alternative energy in the next three
years.

Good goal, I doubt they can make it.

    * Modernizing more than 75% of federal buildings and improve the
energy efficiency of two million American homes, saving consumers and
taxpayers billions on our energy bills.

You mean they will fix the HVAC in our building ?
I'm getting tired of the AC running in December and the heat in July.

    * Making the immediate investments necessary to ensure that within
five years, all of America?s medical records are computerized..

Wonderful goal.

    * Equipping tens of thousands of schools, community colleges, and
public universities with 21st century classrooms, labs, and libraries.

Mearly a continuation of what is already occuring.

    * Expanding broadband across America, so that a small business in
a rural town can connect and compete with their counterparts anywhere
in the world.

Fine

    * Investing in the science, research, and technology that will
lead to new medical breakthroughs, new discoveries, and entire new
industries.
    *  Help create five million new jobs by strategically investing
$150 billion over the next ten years to catalyze private efforts to
build a clean energy future.

Nice talk.
What do they MEAN.

    * Within 10 years save more oil than we currently import from the
Middle East and Venezuela combined.

I'd rather they just try to cure cancer.
It would be easier.

    * Put 1 million Plug-In Hybrid cars -- cars that can get up to 150
miles per gallon -- on the road by 2015, cars that we will work to
make sure are built here in America.

If I can't afford a new car now why do they think I will be able to
afford a $40,000 Chevy Volt ?

    * Ensure 10 percent of our electricity comes from renewable
sources by 2012, and 25 percent by 2025.

More hydro then please.

    * Implement an economy-wide cap-and-trade program to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions 80 percent by 2050.

Three card monti on a national scale.

--
Meddle ye not in the Affairs of Dragons, for Thou art Crunchy and taste
Goode with Ketchup.

You said: You miss the point.
The new adminstration promised change and brought only the same kind
of
crowd we've had for decades.

It aint the crowd it's the application. In the words of the current
President, "one President at a time Barrack Obama", "I won".

So we have the house speaker shutting out the opposing party all
together when it come to input for legislation.
Now that's real change there..

Did you see anything in the papers or TV yesterday?

Did not have a chance.  

--
Meddle ye not in the Affairs of Dragons, for Thou art Crunchy and taste
Goode with Ketchup.

Try again today, Obama was all over the Republican members of the
House and Senate, listening to their whines about not being respected
by the Democrats and how everything in every bill is just not right.
Quite the opposite of your post. Sorry, this guy is better than Bush
at doing right.

Here are two little bits from Time magazine. Go to http://swampland.blogs.time.com/
if you want to read the extensions.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/


Wednesday, January 28, 2009 at 9:27 am
Obama: Paring Back the Christmas Tree
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After prevailing on House Democratic leaders to drop the family-
planning provision from the House version of the economic stimulus
bill, President Obama has convinced them to drop another provision
that was proving to be an easy target for Republican criticism,
ridicule and demagoguery: $200 million to spiff up the National Mall.

But as Dan Gerstein notes on Forbes.com, there is only so far Obama
can go with the House version.:

My prediction: Obama will wisely turn to the Senate to rescue his
rescue package from a partisan breakdown that would undermine his
promise of change.

He will not press for any more concessions from House leaders and
let them push through their bill this week with only modest Republican
support. He'll take the minor hit he's certain to get for failing to
deliver a consensus on this critical test vote for the sake of intra-
party harmony. That's the signal he sent during Tuesday's meeting with
House Republicans, when he said he would oppose adding more tax cuts
to the House bill.

Once that hurdle is cleared, Obama will ramp up his bipartisan
negotiations with the Senate on a compromise bill that will preserve
his priorities, include more tax cuts (like the ones proposed by
Finance Committee Chairman Sen. Max Baucus) and pare down some of the
bureaucratic and social spending that are not essential to Democratic
interests or critical to Obama's long-term investment agenda. Those
moves will be enough to defuse the potential for a filibuster and
could get upwards of 70 to 80 votes.

The real test will be the process of reconciling the two different
bills in conference--and convincing the House Democrats they need to
sacrifice some of the pet programs that are hard to justify as part of
an emergency rescue plan. Then we'll see just how strong Obama's
mandate for change really is.

Upwards of 70 votes may be optimistic, but--as Jay Newton-Small notes
below--it will be interesting to watch what happens in the Senate.

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009 at 9:06 am
Obama and the GOP
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Here's the latest from me on yesterday's circus on the Hill. The House
is expected to vote on their $816 billion stimulus package today and
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's office warned yesterday that the
Senate may be in on Saturday debating their $850 billion version –
much to the disappointment of senators looking to go home for
Superbowl weekend. The Senate could vote as early as next Tuesday
which would give Congress nearly two weeks to reconcile the two
versions – a conference, I'm told, the Obama folks want to be deeply
involved in. Even if Obama ends up getting only a handful or no House
GOP votes – he could get more support in the Senate – he can still say
he worked with the GOP, took in their ideas and made every effort,
which is, in part, what this outreach is all about. Part of it is also
a first step in the long process, like turning-an-aircraft-carrier
long, of undoing some of the bitter rancor that has paralyzed
Washington. As Obama told reporters coming out of the Senate meeting
yesterday:

We're not going to get 100% agreement and we might not even get a
50% agreement but I do think that people appreciate me walking them
through my thought process about the bill. I hope that I communicated
my sincere desire to get good ideas from everybody. And my attitude is
that this is the first major piece of legislation that we've been
working on on the Hill and that over time some of these habits of
consultation and mutual respect will take over. But old habits die
hard.

[...]

The main thing is to make sure everybody understands how urgent
the situation is. That the problems our economy faces are not going to
go away easily. We've got to deal with them swiftly and seriously and
that's what my administration is committed to doing and that's not a
Democratic issue or a Republican issue, that's an American issue.
.

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