Re: A naval 'what would you do?'

In article <3dfij41714j240mrm6efbj2jictmvluf8r@xxxxxxx>,
Peter Skelton <skeltonp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 13:44:46 +0000, azb@xxxxxxxxxx (Andrew Robert
Breen) wrote:

In article <HsCdnfVzo7_Yh6TUnZ2dnUVZ8u2dnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
<kenney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <hubl06xmoi.ln2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, azb@xxxxxxxxxx (Andrew
Robert Breen) wrote:

Do away with the vestigal ram bow, replace with a clipper bow to
reduce spray interference.

The ram bow was retained to increase buoyancy forward. Increased flare

A longer bow, then? The ram certainly vanished over the war years. don't
think Refit and Repair had it.

R&R both had it. Renown had a flared bow built higher, but the
bulge was still there (I'm looking at a photo.)

And I wasn't. OK: they had the bulge.

Hood didn't really, but there was added bouyancy below the
waterline at the bow

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/great_britain/pages/battleships/hms_hood.htm


The KGV's of WWII didn't

http://www.maritimequest.com/warship_directory/great_britain/battleships/prince_of_wales/hms_prince_of_wales.htm

nor did Nelsol and Rodnol (or, indeed, any of Goodall's battlship
designs?)

Much longer bow before A mounting than any WW1 ship, though.

on the bow would have helped keep spray out of the way and was IIRC used
on the later C classes.

Agree about more flare (and maybe a knuckle?). Actually, given that A
mount can't fire dead ahead at low elevations anyway (blast effects on
structure), how about a trawler blow like the later Cs?

Sounds good to me, but that's above the W/L, if bouyancy below is
needed, it can be provided without affecting that.

You've convinced me! The bulge stayes, but is (perhaps?) kept deeper below
the waterline. The aim is to avoid throwing up spray (or green water..),
and the more pronounced bulges seem to have been good at that.

{IIRC Dreadnought was originally designed with a straight bow, got a
ram-form bow for looks - and went a bit faster than anticipated as a
result. But it made her wetter]

More freeboard was needed in all of these ships - the cover of the UK
edition of Gordon's "Rules of the game" is striking. The two battleships
(QEs?) in not-that-dreadful weather are doing a pretty good impression of
half-tide rocks..

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
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