Re: The Future Navy Will Be Nuclear

On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:24:52 -0700, Fred J. McCall
<fjmccall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Roger Conroy" <rogerconroy.nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fjmccall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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:> Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>
:> :Fred J. McCall <fjmccall@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :
:> :>:Iran? Or pretty much every other country with shallow coastal waters
:> :>:and a grudge against the US.
:> :>:
:> :>
:> :> And just what US base would such boats operate out of to get to Iran?
:> :
:> :Diego Garcia?
:> :
:> :>:> Again, AIP boats just aren't as suitable as nukes for the way we
:> :>:> operate.
:> :>:
:> :>:Or rather - the Ops plans have been adjusted to the capabilities of the
:> :>:SSNs.
:> :>:
:> :>
:> :> No, Juergen. The hardware has been procured to meet the operational
:> :> needs.
:> :
:> :Nope. Back when the hardware was procured, it was DE or nuke. AIP
:> :simply didn't exist. DE would have been a bad choice, no doubt about
:> :that. But AIP simply wasn't an option, and would be one today.
:> :
:>
:> Why would DE be any worse choice? You do understand where the primary
:> motive power on an AIP boat comes from, right?
:>
:> :> If our primary operations were up where Germany's are AIP boats would
:> :> make sense. Likewise, if we were a regional power AIP boats would
:> :> make sense. But we're not a regional power and the threats we need
:> :> submarines to operate against are not local to the United States.
:> :>
:> :> That's why AIP boats aren't suitable for the United States.
:> :
:> :Uh... you DO realise that the 214s are for example supposed to operate
:> :off the Somalian coast?
:> :
:>
:> Operating from where?
:>
:> --
:> "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
:> territory."
:> --G. Behn
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:Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, Kenya... And those are just a few really
:nearby basing options. If you look just a little further there are
:litterally dozens of ports that can host them. UNREP is also an option.
:

We don't have bases in any of those places. You want to UNREP fuel
cell fuel? Sorry, but that's just insane.

Fuel cell fuel is generally alcohol. So ethanol is hard to UNREP? You
don't mention the oxidiser, which is the hard part.

Casady
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