Re: A real littoral combat ship goes to sea with an Army crew


"dott.Piergiorgio" <dott.PiergiorgioNIHON@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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dumpster4@xxxxxxxxxxx ha scritto:
See:

http://www.eaglespeak.us/2008/07/real-littoral-combat-ship-goes-to-sea.html

Could an enlarged version of Stiletto do a better job in the LCS role
than the other 2 designs?

mmm.... seems a good idea; ISTR to have pointed in another thread that the
base concept of early DD (that is, 200-350 tons, light but powerful
armament, and high speed) is perhaps the best response against pirate &
"evil guys" speedboat menace (conceptually not dissimilar to victorian TB)

But the entire issue IMHO is around to the failure of US military &
procurement to grasp the KISS concept.

a simple monohull with 1-2 57/70 plus between 4 and 7 junk bashers in the
.50-35mm range and an handiful of light antiship missiles (like the
Italian Marte or britsh Sea Skua or even smaller) in good' ol rack
launcher and a speed in the 32-40 kts under or around 400 tons is IMHO
feasible, and can be build & fitted with a very low price tag, even
accounting for inevitable (in the US) sheniganings & pork barreling.


I understand that I have left out the ASW, but IMHO this is better covered
by helos; perhaps this can be a good idea taking a new look to the
original USS Hayler (DD 997, the last sprucan) design (enlarged hangar &
flight deck for carrying four helos); the old Italian Cruisers was
excellent ASW platforms because of the large helo wing

BTW helos are also excellent platforms against speedboats, and also
capable of many useful missions....

And there's also the drones, and I guess that we see back the cats
amidship the surface combatants :D (serously, someone has noticed the
resurfacing of old architecture in DDs & euro FFs ? the Kongos has back
the old pagodas, the FREMM & Daring shows large mast reminescent of
tetrapodes, and seems that the new Rinascimento frigates seems to have
tronco-conic masts very similiar to later Condottieri's bridges/conning
tower.....)

Best regards from Italy,
Dott. Piergiorgio.

Take a look at the MEKO A-200
Bigger than your concept but I doubt your proposed armaments & crew could
all fit in a 400t hull.
An example of a recent MEKO is the South African Navy's Valour class:
3700 tonnes propelled by twin diesels (2 props) and gas turbine (waterjet)
+-30kt top speed
1 x Otobreda 76mm gun
8 x Excocets in VLS
16 x SAMs in VLS
1 x Twin 35mm CIWS
2 x Oerlikon 20mm
2 x .50 MG in remote operated mounts
4 x 324mm torpedo tubes
1 x Super Lynx helicopter
and the usual radars, sonars, EW, ECM, etc.
124 crew
28 day endurance
8000nm range at 16kt.


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