Re: OT: Surfer thinks he has the meaning of everything

On Nov 16, 3:58 pm, "Mr.Smartypants" <b...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Nov 16, 11:46 am, Jack Linthicum <jacklinthi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



Original cite has the E-8 pattern and the second cite (!) is the
harder part.

Surfer dude stuns physicists with theory of everything

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 6:01pm GMT 14/11/2007

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An impoverished surfer has drawn up a new theory of the universe, seen
by some as the Holy Grail of physics, which has received rave reviews
from scientists.
# Is this the fabric of the universe?
# Are we missing a dimension of time?
# Beer after sport 'is good for the body'

Garrett Lisi, 39, has a doctorate but no university affiliation and
spends most of the year surfing in Hawaii, where he has also been a
hiking guide and bridge builder (when he slept in a jungle yurt).
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The E8 pattern (click to enlarge), Garrett Lisi surfing (middle) and
out of the water (right)

In winter, he heads to the mountains near Lake Tahoe, Nevada, where he
snowboards. "Being poor sucks," Lisi says. "It's hard to figure out
the secrets of the universe when you're trying to figure out where you
and your girlfriend are going to sleep next month."

Despite this unusual career path, his proposal is remarkable because,
by the arcane standards of particle physics, it does not require
highly complex mathematics.

Even better, it does not require more than one dimension of time and
three of space, when some rival theories need ten or even more spatial
dimensions and other bizarre concepts. And it may even be possible to
test his theory, which predicts a host of new particles, perhaps even
using the new Large Hadron Collider atom smasher that will go into
action near Geneva next year.

Although the work of 39 year old Garrett Lisi still has a way to go to
convince the establishment, let alone match the achievements of Albert
Einstein, the two do have one thing in common: Einstein also began his
great adventure in theoretical physics while outside the mainstream
scientific establishment, working as a patent officer, though failed
to achieve the Holy Grail, an overarching explanation to unite all the
particles and forces of the cosmos.
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Now Lisi, currently in Nevada, has come up with a proposal to do this.
Lee Smolin at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, describes Lisi's work as "fabulous". "It is
one of the most compelling unification models I've seen in many, many
years," he says.

"Although he cultivates a bit of a surfer-guy image its clear he has
put enormous effort and time into working the complexities of this
structure out over several years," Prof Smolin tells The Telegraph.

"Some incredibly beautiful stuff falls out of Lisi's theory," adds
David Ritz Finkelstein at the Georgia Institute of Technology,
Atlanta. "This must be more than coincidence and he really is touching
on something profound."

The new theory reported today in New Scientist has been laid out in an
online paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything"
by Lisi, who completed his doctorate in theoretical physics in 1999 at
the University of California, San Diego.

He has high hopes that his new theory could provide what he says is a
"radical new explanation" for the three decade old Standard Model,
which weaves together three of the four fundamental forces of nature:
the electromagnetic force; the strong force, which binds quarks
together in atomic nuclei; and the weak force, which controls
radioactive decay.

The reason for the excitement is that Lisi's model also takes account
of gravity, a force that has only successfully been included by a
rival and highly fashionable idea called string theory, one that
proposes particles are made up of minute strings, which is highly
complex and elegant but has lacked predictions by which to do
experiments to see if it works.

But some are taking a cooler view. Prof Marcus du Sautoy, of Oxford
University and author of Finding Moonshine, told the Telegraph: "The
proposal in this paper looks a long shot and there seem to be a lot
things still to fill in."

And a colleague Eric Weinstein in America added: "Lisi seems like a
hell of a guy. I'd love to meet him. But my friend Lee Smolin is
betting on a very very long shot."

Lisi's inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known
to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical
pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood
by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in
tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-
dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our
universe is this beautiful shape."

What makes E8 so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded
it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we
have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all
result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8.

Lisi's breakthrough came when he noticed that some of the equations
describing E8's structure matched his own. "My brain exploded with the
implications and the beauty of the thing," he tells New Scientist. "I
thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

What Lisi had realised was that he could find a way to place the
various elementary particles and forces on E8's 248 points. What
remained was 20 gaps which he filled with notional particles, for
example those that some physicists predict to be associated with
gravity.

Physicists have long puzzled over why elementary particles appear to
belong to families, but this arises naturally from the geometry of E8,
he says. So far, all the interactions predicted by the complex
geometrical relationships inside E8 match with observations in the
real world. "How cool is that?" he says.

The crucial test of Lisi's work will come only when he has made
testable predictions. Lisi is now calculating the masses that the 20
new particles should have, in the hope that they may be spotted when
the Large Hadron Collider starts up.

"The theory is very young, and still in development," he told the
Telegraph. "Right now, I'd assign a low (but not tiny) likelyhood to
this prediction.

"For comparison, I think the chances are higher that LHC will see some
of these particles than it is that the LHC will see superparticles,
extra dimensions, or micro black holes as predicted by string theory.
I hope to get more (and different) predictions, with more confidence,
out of this E8 Theory over the next year, before the LHC comes
online."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/e...

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0711.0770

An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything

A. Garrett Lisi
SLRI, 722 Tyner Way, Incline Village, NV 89451
E-mail: al...@xxxxxxxxxx

Abstract: All elds of the standard model and gravity are uni ed as an
E8 principal bundle
connection. A non-compact real form of the E8 Lie algebra has G2 and
F4 subalgebras which
break down to strong su(3), electroweak su(2) x u(1), gravitational
so(3,1), the frame-Higgs,
and three generations of fermions related by triality. The
interactions and dynamics of these
1-form and Grassmann valued parts of an E8 superconnection are
described by the curvature
and action over a four dimensional base manifold.
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So basicly the guy's a wanker.

The E8 was found more than a century ago and he's pretending he
invented it.

Didn't read it all did you?

Lisi's inspiration lies in the most elegant and intricate shape known
to mathematics, called E8 - a complex, eight-dimensional mathematical
pattern with 248 points first found in 1887, but only fully understood
by mathematicians this year after workings, that, if written out in
tiny print, would cover an area the size of Manhattan.

E8 encapsulates the symmetries of a geometric object that is 57-
dimensional and is itself is 248-dimensional. Lisi says "I think our
universe is this beautiful shape."

What makes E8 so exciting is that Nature also seems to have embedded
it at the heart of many bits of physics. One interpretation of why we
have such a quirky list of fundamental particles is because they all
result from different facets of the strange symmetries of E8.

Lisi's breakthrough came when he noticed that some of the equations
describing E8's structure matched his own. "My brain exploded with the
implications and the beauty of the thing," he tells New Scientist. "I
thought: 'Holy crap, that's it!'"

What Lisi had realised was that he could find a way to place the
various elementary particles and forces on E8's 248 points. What
remained was 20 gaps which he filled with notional particles, for
example those that some physicists predict to be associated with
gravity.

Physicists have long puzzled over why elementary particles appear to
belong to families, but this arises naturally from the geometry of E8,
he says. So far, all the interactions predicted by the complex
geometrical relationships inside E8 match with observations in the
real world. "How cool is that?" he says.
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