Re: Karl Rove says Iraq wasn't reason for 2006 loss

On Jul 30, 6:37 pm, "TMOliver" <tmoliverjr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message

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On Jul 30, 3:08 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You know? Nixon was able to rehabilitate his image post-presidency with
his
statesmanship.

Do you think GWB will become an elder statesman at some time whose
soundbites on news shows will be invaluable?

Bush will speak at some $200K a speech operation like Clinton's had
since he left the Presidency. Someone might be foolish enough to make
him a goodwill ambassador but he probably won't go around building
houses like Jimmy Carter or raising money for tsunami victims like his
father and Clinton.

No, I suspect that it will be the other way around, that Bush '43 will find
(or accept) only a modest few mildly compensated speaking engagements, yet
will pick up a cause, likely to do with rural or agricultural America (or
internationally, for he'll be able to work on some project with Mexico, at
least until Major League Baseball and the NFL figure out the gold mine
they've both missed by not having franchises in Mexico City. Now that's a
possible eventual stage, one of the owners of the new NFL Mexico City
Aztecs, the expansion team with thrills to rip your living heart out, and
where Michael Vick can play after prison, or the Conquistadors, with Nolan
Ryan (already a close friend), Roger Clemens and George Bush in the front
office and the dugout. One place where he will be popular will be Israel,
having reduced one potential immediate antagonist and long time threat,
Iraq, to a dismembered state with no external policy, only internal and
bloody unrest.

Consider the implications of such semi-likely events.....

In Israel, less terrorist violence than in a long while, Fatah and Hamas
locked in deadly conflict, Hezbollah having to deal with the Lebanese Army
and not free to fire into Israel, Iraq with its bounty money for the
families of suicide bombers out of the picture, and Iran needing to foster
and support Al Sadr and the Shia Militias closer to home, with Saudi
jihadists heading for Iraq, full of more and easier targets and safer than
the West bank or Gaza.

Within the next 6 months, the government of Pakistan either concludes some
sort of anti-clerical coalition with some of the old Centrist interests,
promises elections and is able to control (eventually) the religious far
right and the tribal territories, or it doesn't, and Pakistan, the keys to
its nuclear arsenal on a hook in the President's closet, falls into serious
internal conflict, leading the Indians to buy any and all arms at the best
available interest rates, as India becomes the West's "Cavalry Regiments at
war on the jihadist frontier".

2010 or so, and the current government in Iran falls to an internal coup,
lead by a moderate coalition from which emerges a government intent on
restoring internal prosperity first. The "Revolutionary Guards", unwilling
to step aside without a fight, plunge the place and its oil export
facilities into unrest.

2011, and the Alawite leadership in Syria, subsidy and support abandoned by
Iran, revenue from Iraqi oil pipeline transit fees gone as Iraq has
descended into mayhem, collapses, and Syria becomes the scene of internal
fragmentation and conflict between sectarian interests.

Soon after, Hezbollah, it's financial purse strings cut by the collapse of
the mullahs in Iran, exhausts itself on the once fertile slopes of South
Lebanon and falls victim to crooked leaders who have feathered their own
nests, leaving the poor refugee camp dwellers at the mercy of the Lebanese
who ain't likely to be happy with them and will have finally encountered a
group weak enough to whup (but with no place willing to accept deportees).
Meanwhile, Hamas and Al Fatah, to busy fighting each other to have much to
do with fighting the Israelis, begin to grow increasingly irrelevant to the
Palestinians, who will either - the educated/skilled among them at least -
fled to take up foreign residence, leaving no one but old folks and
paramilitaries )and they at war with each other), neither very good at
building and operating a state.

At the same time, the evil old royals in Saudi will finally have reached the
point that they disappear (along with countless resident Westerners unwise
enough not to flee early to the Gulf States or further) amidst some bloody
Night of the Long Knives, reducing oil exports to a trickle.

By then, most middle eastern oil exports diminished to an unsteady trickle,
Hilary in the White House reaches out to embrace the Mexicans as if they
were long time lovers, trading any sort of legislation full of amnesty and
out right bribery, with every big corporate lobby embracing the policy,
dragging even the most reluctant Congressfolk aboard, everyone dead set to
preserve every available drop of Mexican oil.

Meanwhile, over at DoD, Secretary of State Joe Biden - No, I find that
incredible even in fantasy - meets with the SECDEF (who won't be Wesley
Clark) and they summon Don Rumsfield and Bill Richardson to plan the
invasion, conquest and setting up a new government in Venezuela, the biggest
close-by oil fields with CitGo office towers in Dallas and Houston, using
mercs and unhappy Venezuelans training in Cuba, which after Fidel's passing
and Raul's death in a mysterious jeep accident, has been taken over by a
combination of Disney and Wynn/Las Vegas interests, ready to rent former
military encampments and reeducation centers to anybody with a bone to pick
and money to pay for it.

Soon, every African nation with oil reserves exceeding a few million barrels
has two or more revolutionary movements in formation or actively killing off
locals, and the Japanese Self Defense Forces occupy at least three
Mideastern ports to ensure the flow of oil to the Home Islands. Millions of
Chinese laborers, under and lightly employed, are conscripted for a new
"Long March", building oil pipelines into Russia to corner the market and
distribution rights for any excess. With moral standards equivalent to
those of Joe Stalin, Putin and the oligarchs are quick to soak up as much of
those Chinese US dollars for future high life in foreign fleshpots.
Halliburton and KBR stock climbs atop US markets, with profits secure for
decades to come on Chinese contracts, and neither bothers to bid on
Venezuelan work, invasion or oil related, leaving that to Schlumberger and
the Frogs.

The whole thing really gets nasty, when the last US unit evacs from Iraq
where it kept open a couple of air fields, does not return to the US at all,
but is immediately deployed to back up the adventurous gang USN Gators have
loaded to land on the beaches of Venezuela (hoping that the locals will turn
out with flags and flowers).

Coincidentally, it's October 22, 2011, the same night plus 49 years that JFK
took to the TV to announce the Cuban Blockade, that HRC sits down in front
of the camera to announce the modest military movements supporting local
Democratic interests to protect the petroleum production of our friends the
Venezuelans, led astray by Che's nephew, Hugo Chavez, a pedophilic
Sandinista Bolshevik Trotskyite, obviously mentally deranged and a threat to
the Hemisphere.

I suggest that scenarios like these may be closer to what we should expect
than me might think.....(and that a variety of self-serving former leaders
will have nice villas on the Riviera, paid for with the fortunes and blood
of their country(wo)men).

TMO

First things first, do you know what it costs to go to a Mexican
League baseball game? and Why? It's in some basic law that no team can
charge more than a normal Mexican can pay, ie very little. Example:

Professional Baseball

Thanks to Mexico City's batter-friendly thin air, baseball fans here
are usually treated to slugfests at Foro Sol (Av. Viaducto Río de la
Piedad, at Río Churubusco, Col. Granjas México, Mexico City, Mexico.
PHONE: 55/5639-8722, www.diablos.com.mx). The regular season runs from
March to July; playoffs begin in August. Ticket prices range from $1
to $6. When purchasing tickets, you'll be asked if you want to sit
along the baseline of the home team (the Diablos Rojos) or of the
visitor.

Mexico is a socialist state no matter how you want it to be like El
Norte. There aren't enough people who would pay for a sky box or a $50
dollar equivalent ticket. Those $10m salaries aren't paid for by some
government program. The "gold mine" is in your head, why do you think
San Antonio with its large population doesn't have a baseball and
football team? Per capita income is $17K, for Buffalo, the lowest in
the NFL about $32K. get the picture? Mexico is the highest PCI in
Latin America at $10K.

.

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