Re: Dogfight Bismark

On Jun 30, 1:17 pm, Vince <fire...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
deemsb...@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Jun 30, 8:04 am, Vince <fire...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Warspite wrote:
Vince ha scritto:
Britain controlled the North sea in the same way the Germans
controlled the baltic
Witch you think was more important for the German economy, North sea o
Baltic Sea?
Germany's strategic position at sea was hopeless. The UK sits like a
cork in the bottle.

Not if the HSF could take out the RN.

Vince

nonsense the HSF are coal burners. They don't have the range or staying
power to project maritime power west of the UK Which is what would be
needed. Its about 900 sea miles to the western approaches, 50 hours
steaming at full speed

And what do they do when they get there?

to "take out" the Grand fleet they need to be bigger then he grand
fleet. If they invest that much in the fleet the french army tears them
apart.

Maritime war is not about battles. Its about seaborne commerce. In an
era of coal fired ships and no aircraft Germany cannot disrupt British
seaborne commerce from bases in Germany.

But British ships were coal fired too or are you referring to the fact
that since nuclear fuel had not been discovered, the whole plot could
not be written otherwise?

If not then the fact that rapid firepower was not built into RN ships
could have been mitigated with an ounce of sense or patience per
ship's captain?


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