Re: Why is US installing ABM system?

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:50:00 GMT, Fred J. McCall
<fmccall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Peter Skelton <skeltonp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:02:13 GMT, Fred J. McCall
:<fmccall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:
:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>
:>:On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:19:35 GMT, Fred J. McCall
:>:<fmccall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>:
:>:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>:>
:>:>:On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:28:50 GMT, Fred J. McCall
:>:>:<fmccall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>:>:
:>:>:>Peter Skelton <skeltonp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>:>:>
:>:>:>:
:>:>:>:GW1 was a clear message by the UN under American leadership to
:>:>:>:tin-pot dictators to keep their bad behaviour at home. As such,
:>:>:>:it was a confirmation of several positive bits of international
:>:>:>:law and good order.
:>:>:>:
:>:>:>
:>:>:>GW2 was an equally clear message to the same audience that blocking
:>:>:>things in the Third World Debating Society otherwise known as the UN
:>:>:>is no guarantee of protection when it comes to flouting prior
:>:>:>agreements.
:>:>:
:>:>:Or that the US is not nearly strong enough to work without world
:>:>:support.
:>:>:
:>:>
:>:>We seem to have settled one tin-pot dictator's hash fairly
:>:>effectively.
:>:>
:>:
:>:Or created a martyr out of him, ...
:>:
:>
:>I don't see crowds chanting his name. I don't see him bother his
:>neighbors. I don't see his kids doing it, either.
:>
:
:Even by your loose standards, the above is breath-taking idiocy.
:His legacy includes, for example, renewed determination among
:regional leaders to get nukes so they need not fear the American
:beast. Yes, his name is used.
:

If his legacy is that, I'd think the regional leaders would avoid
doing that like the plague, given what Saddam got out of his quest for
same.

Saddam got killed for not having nukes. They are not as stupid as
you Fred.

Cite for his name being chanted by large crowds?

Not a claim I advanced Fred. Very poor strawman Fred.
:
:>
:>His hash seems to have been pretty effectively settled to me. Perhaps
:>you think he's still in control from beyond the grave. You've
:>believed much stranger things, after all.
:>
:
:Nice straw-man.
:

Petey, you need to stop reading what you want me to have said and
starting reading what I actually say. There's no straw-man there at
all. My remark goes DIRECTLY to my original statement.

Your first sentence is a simple reiteration of your original. The
rest is a strawman used to insult. I read it Freddie, I know what
it said, which seems to be more than you can say honestly..

You're shown as a dishonest little scut by your attempts to spin it
otherwise.


Perhaps you should tell the truth Fred, it might get me off
balance.

:>:
:>:... bankrupted yourselves ...
:>:
:>
:>This isn't Canada. We have an actual budget and an actual economy.
:>
:
:Nice lie Fred. The unfunded, unrecorded government liability to
:cover promised (means legislated) payments is over half a million
:per capita down there. We have had our problems but almost 80% of
:that is recorded and funded in an actuarially sound manner here.
:

Oddly, given your position, I don't see any signs of us being
'bankrupted' down here. If we are, YOU are in real trouble. Just
think about how big a piece of the Canadian economy is owned by the
US.

What I posted is the truth. Your blindness does not change it.
:
:>:
:>:... and bogged
:>:yourselves down holding a colonial baby for the next howaver many
:>:years.
:>:
:>
:>Nope. We can leave any time we like. That's in our control.
:>
:
:And when you leave, what are the consequences to you? Those are
:neither in your control nor pleasant.
:

That's rather irrelevant to your lie, above. And I've been nice so
far in not pointing out the "colonial baby" part of your lie.

I'll freely admit that you can shoot hopurselves in the other
foot by leaving quickly. That does not make any part of what I
wrote a lie. (A person holding a baby can simply put it down, but
has difficulty doing so.)

Show your evidence that we want to colonize that pesthole, if you
would. If you can't (and you can't, since we don't), then you are
once again shown to be a liar.

It already is a colony of yours Fred. It seems you don't
understand what a colony is. That does not shock me, after all
you're the guy who doesn't know what "or" means.
:>:
:>:>:
:>:>:BTW did you notice that the debate leading up to this tiff didn't
:>:>:involve third world countries?
:>:>:
:>:>
:>:>No. I noticed reality, instead.
:>:>
:>:>[If you'd said "the nations blocking action" rather than "the debate"
:>:>you'd have had a better point.]
:>:
:>:You are rather far from reality Fred. I'll stand by what I said,
:>:it's correct.
:>:
:>
:>Of course it is, Petey. Of course it is.
:>
:
:Yup
:

Yup yup.

<snicker>

:
:>You should probably go answer a phone or something...
:
:Maybe it's your employer trying to shop you ouy for seven dollars
:an hour again.
:

Only if they want to lose A LOT of money, Petey. Some of us get paid
more than you do.

You didn't read what I wrote, did you?


Peter Skelton
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