Re: Looking for sources on day to day life aboard ship


"BlackBeard" <spk_gbv@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Maybe you should pause and take the time to consider what I posted.
YOUR vessel is operating in a hostile environment completely
surrounded by an atmosphere (or lack of) that will likely kill the
crew if a breach occurs, like a submarine.

Or like any other seagoing vessel...

Incorrect. I've stood on the open deck of a Destroyer and an Oiler at
sea. Walked through an open hatch to get there. Try that on a Space
ship or Sub. USS Cole and USS Stark stand as examples that surface
ships can survive major hull breaches without sinking.


Breach the hull of a submarine and it sinks, exactly like any other ship.
That a destroyer has a deck and a submarine doesn't is an irrelevant
triviality.




Your crew is operating
independently for long periods of time without immediate/constant
communications or replinishment, like a submarine.

Or like any other seagoing vessel before radio...

But you are not operating before radio.


They are not in constant instantaneous contact with anyone who isn't already
aboard or in extremely close proximity. Exactly like any ship before radio.




Your post cited operations
(delayed communications) similar to what Subs deal with.


Subs have radios and the capability of instantaneous communications, even
when submerged (though reduced).




And as to
modern operations, in acordance with your post, Subs often operate
independently.



So do surface ships...




Your operational
endurance is limited by the air, water, and food you can carry,
recycle, or generate, like a submarine.

Or like any other seagoing vessel...

Incorrect, again. Surface ships receive replenishment of food at
sea. Surface ships do not create their own air.


Subs ALSO receive replenishment, and their mission length is limited by
their stores. Like any other ship... That subs need to go to more effort
for life support is another irrelevant triviality.




Because of these limitations you get the highest efficiency by
carrying the smallest crew you can and still carry out your mission,
like a submarine.

Or like any other seagoing vessel...

But more so on a Sub.


In other words subs are just like any other surface ship...




Because of the minimal crew, cross-training is

essential to maintain effectiveness to compensate for injuries,
illness, or death, like a submarine.

Or like any other seagoing vessel...

Incorrect. There is a proposal to crew the LCS with a minimum cross-
trained crew styled after the Submarine model. You do not find the
same program with "any other seagoing vessel."


Now you're grasping at truly irrelevant administrative trivia...






Because of the isolation unique to space travel (or sub-surface) you
need to screen individuals more rigorously. Service on any warship is
highly stressful, adding the additional pressure of all the points
above makes it more so, like a submarine.

Or like any other seagoing vessel...

Again, you are incorrect. Submarine crews must pass additional
screening and evaluations not required "on any other seagoing
vessel." If they fail the screening, they end up on "any other
seagoing vessel."


Administrative trivia again. You have lost sight of the nature of this
discussion. Which is NOT specific administrative differences between
surface ships and submarines in the US Navy of the present day.




On top of older, worn
(hopefully not worn out) ships, the colonial fleet has staffing problems.
Enlisted will tend to be recrited locally (which means they will mostly
be
expatriots or locals), getting sufficient recruits from the Core is out
of
the question. Officers will mostly be either rejects from the Home fleet
who aren't quite bad enough to kick out of the navy entirely or rising
stars
looking for adventure and a chance to really show their stuff. There's
action in the colonies, but not at home.

Well it's your story so you are free to create the scenario you want.
You asked for assistance and it was provided. You state your
ignorance of Naval matters yet argue with those that give you accurate
information.


I argued with your contention that a space craft must necessarily follow
submarine rathe than surface ship principles. And I demonstrated why every
single argument you presented as to why was false.









BB

I guess everybody has some mountain to climb,
it's just fate whether you live in Tibet or Kansas...





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