Re: Combat, With Limits, Looms for Hybrid V-22



In message <1176835689.396314.7570@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, jeffreysmidt@xxxxxxxxx writes
I like you have concerns, but then almost every single weapons system
let out of the bag in piece time have be highly critised as a piece of
junk. The F-4 Phantom, the A-6 Intruder, the F-16 and the F-111 all
were lambasted, turned out as good gear.

Apart from the F-111, that is.

I'm also not sure of overmuch "lambasting" of the F-4, or of the F-16 - in fact the F-16 was widely hailed.

The Spurance Destroyer, the
Perry Frigate and Los Angeles class subs likewise.

None of which have been tested against serious opposition... the Spruance was a good ASW destroyer with shedloads of growth room, the Perry was a tight "low" design for a high-low mix that ran out of space in a hurry.

If we took away every piece of gear that some armchair expert or even
knowledgable expert had serious misgivings about, I don't think the
military would be left with a single piece of equipment.

However, that doesn't mean that some real horrors haven't slipped through, even to the production stage, before reality sank in. The MBT-70, the M247, DASH, the RAH-66, Crusader, the A-12, Tacit Rainbow, SPIW, the M60 machine gun... just because it's got a high-ranking sponsor doesn't mean it's a good idea.

One of the
reasons the cost of equipment has gone absolulely through the roof, is
trying to design around every concern, solve every risk and address
every detractor.

Er.... no. Part of the problem is poor requirements management, when the process starts with "we want this system" rather than "we have this problem and the best solution is..."

Read up on the problems the Chinook had in the beginning, many of
which are the same agruments used against the Osprey. The CH-46 and
CH-53's are getting old and worn out, and not many of use are still
driving Studebakers to work, no matter how well they were maintained.

And the reason the USMC is still flying around in Sea Knights that are older than those Marines' _parents_ is because the Osprey has been "coming really soon now!" for nearly two decades, preventing any other replacement options while failing to actually deliver an airframe.


--
The nation that makes a great distinction between its scholars and its
warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done
by fools.
-Thucydides


Paul J. Adam - mainbox{at}jrwlynch[dot]demon(dot)co<dot>uk
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