Re: Topic For Paper?

"Eugene Griessel" <eugene@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"guy" <guyswettenham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Eugene, have a look in your historical atlas at Poland and Poland-
Lithuania, it has moved back to where it was in around 1100, after
having moved a long way east after that date, a new meaning to the
concept of a country 'progressing' ?


I have a book on Poland that has the incredible shrinking, growing and
even disappearing borders of the place back to the 1100s.
[ SNIP ]

There's bad luck involved when you end up sandwiched between the Germans and
the Russians...many centuries ago the Poles should have realized that they
picked a bad spot, and just gone and settled in pre-USA North America.

Borders of course bear little relation to the ethnic groups. No historic map
shows any Estonia after the early 13th century, not until 1918. The
Estonians themselves were always there, as they have been for at least 5-7
millennia, and possibly as early as when the glaciers receded. The Danes,
Germans, Swedes and Russians have just been a small ruling class, that has
not greatly affected the Estonians themselves.

Much the same would have been true of Poland after a certain point. The big
migrations of peoples died down in Europe quite a long time ago (*); the
political borders OTOH changed every week.

AHS

* Not quite true when one looks at the influx of Asians and Africans over
the past half-century or so, into western Europe.


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