Re: Communication from bridge to CIC or vice versa.

"TOliver" <toliverjrFIX@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
:news:umn7a2h5i41ielh2phk01m96cn7qk5g6mt@xxxxxxxxxx
:> Brad Meyer <bradm110@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:>
:> :On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:15:50 +0200, "dott.Piergiorgio"
:> :<dott.piergiorgio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :
:> :>Brad Meyer ha scritto:
:> :>> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:41:14 GMT, "Timothy S. McFeely"
:> :>> <flankbell@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
:> :>>
:> :>>> Could someone explain to me how the OOD runs a ship while under
:> attack on a
:> :>>> skimmer? Does his voice count?
:> :>>
:> :>> I have a very hard time imagining a situation wherein the ship was in
:> :>> battle but the captain had not taken the conn. The OOD would oversee
:> :>> the bridge watchstanders and back up the old man.
:> :>
:> :>
:> :>I think that the only case when OOD has conning in battle is when the
:> :>OOD is the third in command chain (Navigator?) and both CO and XO are
:> :>casualties....
:> :
:> :Even then it would likely be temporary until the next in command could
:> :reach the bridge.
:>
:> Why would anyone go to the bridge? You fight the ship from CIC.
:
:Fred's lilely correct with in the case of a BURKE or TICO
:
:Some time back (and perhaps less than totally observed) the theory was
:developed in the USN that the CO would "command" from CIC with the GQ OOD
:(who might well be the Navigator, but not always) having the conn on the
:Bridge. Under the "Old Rules", tradition and good sense dictated that the
:XO not be on the Bridge at all, but be back (or forward in an ESSEX) in
:Seconday Conn, ready to command the ship if necessary. The problem arises
:with COs, however, striving to maintain contatc with the incomplete and
:often misleading "visual" picture and with poor access to relevant
:decision-making data on the Bridge. There are those who claim (with
:credibility) that VINCENNES would have been less likely to be as notorious
:had her Captain been in CIC, closer to "picture" and those who might have
:better advised him.

This was sort of a mixed bag in the destroyer Navy of 30 years or so
ago. Old style Captains would be on the bridge and put the XO in CIC.
Younger COs recognized that with modern tools the situational
awareness was better in Combat and would reverse the order, sending
the XO to the bridge to take care of shiphandling and staying in CIC
where they got the whole picture the quickest.

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