Re: Showing Saddam how its done

Vince <firelaw@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:> :> I vote we just document their refusal to eat, let them die, then feed
:> :> them to the sharks. That seems to be the alternative to force feeding
:> :> them.
:> :
:> :The issue is not what to do, it is that the government of the United
:> :States says that in our kinder gentler concentration camps inmates have
:> :no right to petition the courts over their treatment.
:>
:> No, the issue is the characterization by the judge and the defense of
:> force feeding hunger strikers as 'torture'.
:>
:> With judges like that, small wonder there is resistance to letting
:> captive combatants take their cases to court.
:>
:> Hint: Look up the real definition of 'concentration camp' and stop
:> using it inappropriately. You'll look less like a total ass that way
:> and will still be able to discuss the issues you claim are of concern
:> to you.
:
:People in various times and places would rather die than suffer certain
:indignities or torture. The willingness of people to die rather than
:submit to indignity is something that is investigated in civilized
:societies. and it is investigated by impartial magistrates.

Nonsense. If death is what they choose, I vote we let them choose it.

:Guantanamo is a place of imprisonment of persons who have not been
:adjudicated criminals or POWS by proper procedures. That makes it a
:Concentration camp by any reasonable definition

More nonsense. Enemy prisoners have never in all of history required
being "adjudicated" to that status. The Conventions only require such
adjudication if there is any DOUBT of their status.

Why is it only America's enemies that you think this needs to be done
for?

Again, I suggest you look up what the definition of 'concentration
camp' actually is. Under no stretch of the imagination can the
facility at Guantanamo Bay be fit into that definition unless you so
broaden the definition such that any facility used for detention of
anyone fits.

What group, pray tell, is being 'concentrated' there?

Again, your arguments will have much more real impact if you don't
couch them in terms that cause virtually everyone to write you off as
a loon and simply ignore what you say.

--
"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer
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