Re: The proposed aircraft for the Royal Navy's two new carriers part 2


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Kevin Brooks wrote:
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
"Kevin Brooks" <brooksvmi@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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:"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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:>I still think a carrier-ized version of the A-10 or similar would be
:>more useful in the imagined litteral scenario. Fighters tend to want
to
:>go fast, shoot on the run and miss the target.
:
:Never heard of precision guided munitions or what they have done to
the
:world of CAS and BAI, huh Jack?

Even without such weapons (and they're mostly what gets dropped these
days), Navy 'fast movers' are 7 mil accuracy platforms. I doubt the
A-10 does any better with unguided ordnance.

--
"Death is my gift." -- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer

Like that centerlined 30mm cannon?

That wonderful cannon you keep yacking about has been guilty of being
used
in the very kind of fratricide cases you claim the fast movers cause.

"In the first incident an Air Force A-10 opened fire on a building only a
couple of hundred meters away from a unit accepting the surrender of an
enemy soldier. The pilot was apparently unaware that the building was in
friendly territory and a no-fire zone. (6:63). Fortunately there were no
casualties. The second incident also involved two A-10's who strafed his
convoy, wounding a corporal and a corpsman. The convoy was on the
friendly
side of the sand berm delineating the fire support coordination line and
the
lead vehicle had been identified with a VS-I 7 panel. In both cases
there
was no visibility problems, no darkness, no ground combat and no surface
to
air combat."

www.globalsecurity.org/ military/library/report/1993/AWH.htm

"A preliminary analysis showed that fratricide of all types accounted for
about 11 percent of 115 US battle deaths. Those figures suggest notable
progress in recent years. In Desert Storm in 1991, fratricide was blamed
for
35 of 148 US battle deaths-or about 24 percent."

www.afa.org/magazine/June2004/0604blue.asp

Let's see, we saw PGM use dramatically *increase* between ODS and OIF,
and
the fratricide rate was cut by more than half...what does that say about
your clunky claims?

Brooks



I see the Air Force in Iraq making a big claim over one use of a 500
pound bomb to destroy a house, one mission, period.

Then you are indeed blind as a bat, and probably even less endowed from a
mental perspective. maybe reading comprehension is a major problem of your's
as well?

Those were the
Greyhound bus drivers in that A-10 not Marines and Navy aviators.

LOL! It was a Marine aviator, serving as a ground controller, who mistkenly
sicked A-10's on that USMC unit back in April '03. Try again?

"Ultimately, the Marine Corps forward air controller who called in the air
strike was found to be at fault for the friendly fire. The Marine captain
believed no friendly forces were in front of his unit, and, although he
could not see the target area or the A-10 aircraft, he directed the A-10s to
strike."

http://www.afa.org/magazine/June2004/0604world.asp

As I
say if you have to drink at the same bar as they guys you just bombed
and strafed the attitude changes.

Ask the *Marine* aviator who was responsible for that frat incident
mentioned above... Why do you make such ridiculous claims in the first
place?

Brooks



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