Re: Murtha Says Army Is 'Broken, Worn Out'-NOT


Shmaryahu b. Chanoch wrote:
> On 3 Dec 2005 08:54:17 -0800, "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
> |> > > >
> |> > > What I'd like to know is how a hawk went to the side of Michael Moore,
> |> Ramsey Clark, etc.
> |> > > I wouldn't call an Army that has active combat ops underway in both Iraq
> |> and Afghanistan,
> |> > > watching the DMZ in Korea, undertaking ops in the Horn of Africa, and
> |> Kosovo peacekeeping
> |> > > "broken." More likely it's his brain that's "broken." No suprise the
> |> House Minority Leader-Pelosi, endorsed his call-but what else should one
> |> expect from a Bay Area bleeding heart?
> |> > > His bill won't even make it out of committee.
> |> > >
>
> |> >
> |> >
> |> > Does the following sound familiar? Murtha is the voice for a large
> |> > group of people trying to save the United States Army from the kind of
> |> > treatment that tells us to support our troops and shorthands on
> |> > equipment and men.
> |> >
> |> Nice op-ed.....Dems still want us to lose Iraq, via "stategic redeployment".
> |> It would be nice for the Dems to want us to WIN, or say anything good
> |> about their country.
> |>
> |> "Murtha a voice for a "large number of folks".....too funny, 70 percent
> |> of Americans (55% Dems) think he's an idiot.
> |>
> |> Mark
> |
> |I would like to see a cite for that 70% statement.
>
> You have not bee on http://DemocratsUnderground.com lately, have you? Or been
> on a major university either.....
>
> ---
>

No, I try to avoid the blatently political blogs and find a 'real' news
source to verify their stenography. Did look in on Fred Barnes and he
sort of blows a wide hole in that so-called poll by showing the
question:

"RT's poll asked respondents: "Thinking about the war in Iraq, when
Democratic Senators criticize the President's policy on the war in
Iraq, do you believe it HELPS the morale of our troops in Iraq or HURTS
the morale of our troops in Iraq?" Respondents could answer that such
criticism "[h]urts morale a lot," "[h]urts morale some,"
"[h]elps morale some," or "[h]elps morale a lot." Although the
poll recorded the responses of those who refused to answer or said they
were unsure, respondents were not offered any option other than that
the criticism helps or hurts morale. In any forced-choice poll
question, most respondents are reluctant to offer an answer other than
the options given. Furthermore, in many instances, interviewers are
instructed only to accept answers that can be placed in one of the
defined responses, or listed as "don't know" or "not sure."
The fact that the survey reports only a category called "not
sure/refused" - and the fact that the sum of this figure, combined
with the "helps" and "hurts" totals, constitutes 100 percent of
the responses - suggests that these were the instructions the
interviewers received.

Such instructions would have made it difficult for a respondent to
answer that Democratic criticism neither helps nor hurts troop morale.
Limited to a choice between "helps" and "hurts," most
respondents answered that such criticism hurts troop morale "some"
or "a lot" - even 52 percent of Democrats surveyed. An additional
17 percent of respondents are listed as having answered "[n]ot
sure" or refusing to answer the question at all. "

Not what you would call a real poll with a real sample, is it?

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