Re: Stay away from "vision educators"

On 30 Mar, 13:06, Mike Tyner <absolutelyinvinci...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 30 Mar, 13:05, Kory Postma <absolutelyinvinci...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



On 30 Mar, 13:04, Mike Tyner <absolutelyinvinci...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Kory Postma" <kor...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote

oppositional movement), blink often and be able to remember things
exactly as they are meant to be seen, then the vision will improve.

I missed something. What happens to make the vision improve?

Does this work for myopia, hyperopia, astigmatism, presbyopia?

-MT

The fact that the person is unlearning bad habits and becoming more
relaxed and also having a clear mind and memory, that will improve the
sight. I may be a little wrong, but this is what I remember after
reading Bates.

Kory

Clearing the mind, improving the memory, and relaxing are all noble
goals.

But when it comes to describing specifically how (or even whether) it
reduces myopia, presbyopia, or astigmatism, we can't find good
evidence other than enthusiastic anecdotes.

Bates said it "improves sight". Maybe in a new-age sort of fashion, it
does. But it doesn't reduce structural anomalies and it can't be
relied on as a cure for macular degeneration or glaucoma or cataract.
There MIGHT even be some measurable effects. But doctors have to
recommend what DOES work first, before they recommend what MIGHT work
A LITTLE for SOME.

-MT

Actually Bates said it would work for everyone who did not have
organic problems (from accidents, etc.). But Bates only showed people
what to do, they would have to continue it at home and all day long.
They would then be seen 2-3 times a week.

Mike, I think it would be best to become a little more familiar with
Bates. Would you like me to scan in a short piece that he had from
the magazines that would explain what an average first visit was like?
Or if you would like any other info, and if I have time, I would be
willing to try to dig up whatever you like and post it here.

Kory
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