Re: Will Orth-C replace Ortho-K -- for Ace

Dear Otis,

You are saving your nephews eyes! What dioptric value of myopia was he
and where was he at? 20/50? 20/70? Where is he at now?

Sorry to hear about your ruined eyes at 6! Thats a very young age to be
myopic and your doctor did a great disservice by telling you to wear
glasses full time(unless you had significent astigmastim then bifocals
should have been pescribed) Its a fact nearsighted people see great
from near without glasses. Plus lenses should be used from near to halt
and even reverse myopia! My eyes also got ruined but not as fast nor
bad. I checked my old pescription and I used to be -4.25! I was 17 back
then too! Basically I have undone the damage of 6 years and im now
seeing as well as I did back when I was 17! Let me try to remember what
my pescription was over the years

at age 10=-.5 but no glasses given
at age 12=-1
at age 13=-1.5
at age 14=-2.25
at age 15=-3.25
at age 16=-3.75
at age 17=-4.25
at age 18=-4.75
at age 21=-5.25
at age 23=-5.75


I am almost 24 now and have gotten down to -4.75 in the worse eye!
Thats a whole diopter improvement!


"Once you start that
stair-case business with an over-prescribed minus -- "recovery" is no
longer possible. But you seem to "agonize" over that issue. If you
wish your vision "clear" from -5 diopters -- then the only method that
works in 1 week is Lasik. But that is indeed your choice."


A full recovery isnt possible past the threshold of -1 to -2 diopters
but I can improve my vision and be less myopic. I wont clear 20/40 but
ill still improve. Yes I do agonize, I wish I knew about prevention
back when I was 12! Yes lasik is a "cure" of sorts but it does not
address the underlying problem of myopia. Lasik wont guarantee my eyes
wont change and it wont relieve any strains of bad vision habit. You
see better but your eyes arent relaxed like they should be. Finally
youve read all the risks of lasik. Lasik seems to be the easy way out
and most people couldnt be bothered to take years to improve a couple
diopters when lasik takes a day and they see 20/20 or close to it.


"The problem? EVeryone seems to "want" 20/10 vision
from that minus -- even when they are passing the 20/40 line!!!"

except only 1%, maybe a tiny bit more can be corrected to 20/10. I can
quote this optometrist who said 20/10 is so rare he sees less than 2%
test at 20/10, period. I could say people want to be 20/20 even if they
are only a little shy of it. Then they ruin their eyes and go downhill
fast! They are like oh well who cares, I see 20/20 with glasses!


"There is a profound conflict. You can not have BOTH extremenly
sharp vision instantly from a minus, and not get stair-case myopia as a

"seconday" effect."

Sad thing people choose instant gratification and pay the price. They
choose the minus lens instead of plus and enjoy clear vision but become
more and more myopic


"She
said they didn't really work, and most of the people got hollow(?)
vision (where
the edges of every object is blurry)."


I think ill stick to natural vision improvement and forgo orthoK,
orthoK and any sort of contact lens. I will forgo glasses whenever its
not neccessary. I undercorrect myself most of the time to allow for
improvement.


"Now the "road back" is indeed difficult. But PLEASE do
not let me stop you. It IS POSSIBLE, but vision clearing seems to
"work" at about +1/2 diopter per year. I hope your motivation is very
strong. Here is an optometrist who has done it."


I am reading it now. Long read! He was about -3.5 and got down to -.5
so thats 3 diopters of improvement which is doable. I hate to sound
pessimistic but I am being relistic. I used to be -5 now I am -4. I
will be very, very happy to get down to -2 or even -3 it will make a
very big difference in my UCVA and reduced dependancy on glasses.
Accroding to my book on "relearning how to see" the testimonals show
most people reducing their myopia by 2 to 3 diopters. Occasionally 4.
Me going from -5 to -2 will be bliss!!!!!! :) :) :) :)

.

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