Re: 'PSA test a disaster' - discoverer
- From: PALMER_ENT@xxxxxxxxx (c palmer)
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:03:27 -0500
From: No_One@xxxxxxxx (El Castor)
responded to:
On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:22:07 -0600, PALMER_ENT@xxxxxxxxx (c palmer)
wrote:
you see, it takes about 13 years for prostate cancer to travel from
the beginning to the end of its journey. it takes about 8 years for
the prostate cancer to chew its way out of the prostate and it takes
about 5 years for the prostate cancer to spread throughout the body and
grow enough to shut down the vital system.
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Oh please, there are no such statistics -- which may be the reason why
you didn't provide a link.
===> i've studied prostate cancer since 1990. a lot of the information
has come and gone. the information that i posted is correct. you will
have to do some research, but you find that my numbers are correct for
an average progression of pca.
there are some factors that can alter the progression some, but if the
more radical treatment is not used, then, the end result will always
end up the same.
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Every cancer is different, and the prognosis varies by the Gleason
score, although even then it's unpredictable.
===> again, if you do your research, you will find that there are only
two types of prostate cancer. one is hormone sensitive and the other
is non hormone sensitive. non hormone sensitive prostate cancer is
slow growing and there is no known drugs to alter it. the hormone
sensitive prostate cancer is faster growing and is sensitive to T,
which is why the administer meds to alter the LH that produces the T.
by taking away what feeds the pca, it extends the life of the patient.
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Don't tell me that the outlook for a Gleason one case is the same as
that for a Gleason ten. PSA numbers are relative, and are only an
indication that further investigation might be advisable.
===> the gleason score is a value given based on the destruction of the
prostate cell. the more aggressive it is, the more damaged the cell
becomes. where this plays a very important part in a man's life or
death is the consideration that in the higher gleason scores, because
of the prostate's cell destruction, the cell's ability to produce psa
has been greatly reduced - thus - requiring a greater number of cells to
emit the same psa level that a less amount of lower gleason cells to
emit.
the bottom line - when a person that has a gleason of 8,9 or 10 - with a
high psa number, they have a ton more of pca cells than one might
consider - given the normal course of events.... which is why a more
aggressive treatment should be administered for the health of the
patient.
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Interesting questions, but I'm getting an annual PSA test. You can do as
you wish.
===> i agree with you. definitely get the psa test.
i was told on my 57th birthday that i had prostate cancer.... and it
was the psa test that alerted me to investigate why.
hope your psa number is low.
all the best,
~ curtis
knowledge is power - growing old is mandatory - growing wise is optional
"Many more men die with prostate cancer than of it. Growing old is
invariably fatal. Prostate cancer is only sometimes so."
http://community.webtv.net/PALMER_ENT/doc
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