Re: BPH Just Starting. Need Advice...

aesoph_family@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 25 Feb, 11:18, Ed <E...@xxxxx> wrote:

It's odd that you should have these problems at this young an age,
and that the onset was marked by the cancer. That suggests that
either the operation or the cancer is the cause. Your doc is
checking that out, right?

[OP] The surgery was EXTREMELY MILD and not likely the cause of
anything. It may have been purely coincidence as the cancerous tumor
was the smallest tumor my doc had ever seen in his life. It was
roughly 1/16" diameter or so and there have been no re-occurances.

I have found that my system is very sensitive to something in
chocolate, and dark chocolate is the worst. Maybe something like that
is aggravating your condition, and maybe you can find out what it is.

[OP] Coffee seems to contribute to my problem.. Not sure about
anything else however. My old ur ordered me to stay away from spicy
foods, but I don't notice any effect what so ever when I eat spicy
foods.

There have been reports that a diet rich in veggies is good, and meat
is bad, for BPH.

[OP] My overall diet is pretty good and I get plenty of exercise. I
don't expect to be able to improve much in this regard unless someone
recommends a magic food of some sort.

Some believe that Saw Palmetto is effective, but if it is, then it is
a drug. A recent study discredits it, while leaving the possibility
open that under some circumstances it might be helpful.

[OP] I have heard this. I take the stuff because it's cheap and it
doesn't have any side effects. I honestly can't say if it works at
all or not. I did take Beta Sistoseron (sp), and I am certain that
didn't work.

I would think the beta sitosterol would work better (for BPH) than the saw
palmetto since one of the theories is that it is the active ingredient in
saw palmetto (and thus much more concentrated when taking beta sitosterol
directly) that is the 5AR inhibitor that reduces the production of
dihydrotestosterone, which supposedly cause the prostrate to grow. I have
taken it (separately and as part of a phytosterol complex now), and bee
pollen, and quercetin for two or three years and can't say that any of them
are producing any magical or noticeable effects. I have had TUIP (1995) and
TURP (2005) on my bladder neck and prostrate (which is relatively normal
size), and am still not happy, but have more serious problems now with my
stomach and upper GI tract. I also used to have a lot of problems with
prostatitis also (mostly non bacterial), which is why I take the bee pollen
and quercetin.

Phytotsterols are supposedly good for other things also, like lowering total
and LDL cholesterol - but you know how the FDA denies all labels on
supplements - lol . Like everyone says in here, it may take a long time to
notice the effects of a 5AR inhibitor (that supposedly helps to slow down
the growth or shrink your prostate and allow better flow), whether it be
avodart or proscar, or beta sitosterol or saw palmetto. And no one "really"
knows a lot about the long term effects of taking supplements like beta
sitosterol or saw palmetto, or many of the prescribed drugs either.

Pete


My uro says try meds first, and if that doesn't work, then it is time
for surgery. Most on this NG sing the praises of PVP (greenlight
laser).

A few have had problems with it. The "gold standard" and still
frequently practiced technique is TURP. It seems that TURP has a
longer recovery time but is more effective. '

[OP] I would like to avoid the TURP also.

Surgery avoids the meds
and their side effects... if you want to go that route, you need to
do your own research to decide with your uro which procedure is best
for you.

Good luck, and let us know what happens.

[OP] THANKS!!!!!! The problem is not bad right now, but I would like
to get this behind me permanently somehow.

Ed


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