Re: color doppler ultrasound to detect prostate cancer?

In article <124vlmfdl7m5ce2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Pete" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jason wrote:
In article <124vh8v14toe717@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Pete"
<pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Jason wrote:
In article <124th3pev79gr77@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Pete"
<pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

ugghle wrote:
The key words here are "detecting signs of colon cancer or rectal
cancer".
You still need to get a biopsy, so you just wasted your time
getting the
virtual bull***, and will need an endoscopic colonoscopy anyway
to get a
biopsy

The question is if you don't detect any signs of colon cancer or
rectal cancer, then you don't need a biopsy. Here's another
example, when you go to the dentist and he thinks there might be a
cavity but can't see it, he has two choices. Drill and look or
get more information by taking an xray. I think an xray would be
prudent to confirm a cavity. I'm not saying technology is all
inclusive, but I sure would avail myself of all the non invasive
exams prior ot any "procedures".

Ugg...your missing a couple of my main points. Catscans are far
from non-invasive (they are very invasive - a simple chest CT is
equivalent to approx 100 flat view chest x-rays - you need to study
radiation if you think that catscans are non-invasive ). Plus, the
damn virtual full body scans (which may or may not include the
colonoscopy) are very expensive and not covered by insurance. They
basically open up a can of worms, for further investigation into
something that is unlikely to be cancer in most cases (haven't you
heard or read about this stuff - ie the virtual controversy). It's
been on the news for years now.

I told you the that EGD's and colonoscopies are not that invasive
(except for the possible risk with general anesthesia, which you
would probably know about if you had GA before). Go ahead and
waste your money on the virtual colonoscopy if you want to,
because if it finds anything, you will end up with a real
colonoscopy anyway.

People have the virtual stuff (mostly the more well to do people
who can afford it) basically because they are over 50 and looking
for a peace of mind (and they don't even have any symptoms). Then
when it shows something suspicious, they are usually headed for a
barrage of further tests, even though it may not be anything
serious. I think it is bull*** personally, and that is my
opinion. Don't kid yourself its all about making money in this
beautiful (dog eat dog) capitalistic world we live in

Pete

Pete,
Several months ago, I read an article about the virtual colonoscopy.
One
danger that you did not mention (unless I missed it) is the
radiation exposure that happens when a virtual colonscopy is done.
I don't have the article in front of me but I seem to recall
reading that it produces what
I consider to be dangerous levels of radiation. A regular
colonoscopy causes NO radiation exposure. You may want to do a
google search on this subject before you consider it. Perhaps
someone can compare the radiation exposure produced by a virtual
colonscopy compared to a standard dental
X-Ray.
Jason

Jason...you need new glasses. I very deliberately addressed the
danger of radiation associated with catscans in my previous post and
even compared a chest catscan to a flat view chest x-ray. I get the
feeling you only read what you want to sometimes :-) . And the
radiation levels in catscans are way beyond the minuscule levels in
a dental x-ray. Now I will tell you the same thing I told "ugg" -
you need to study radiation and radiation poisoning, and look at
some of the articles by the leading medical physicists in the world,
da da da da. I repeat catscans have large levels of radiation, and
the more often you have them the higher the risk of developing
cancer later on, or some other malady caused by damage to an
organ(s).

Pete

Pete,
My post was directed to the poster that was considering a virtural
colonscopy. Jason

Jason...your post was addressed directly to me and made reference to my post
that you were replying to.

Here is your post -
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Pete,
Several months ago, I read an article about the virtual colonoscopy. One
danger that you did not mention (unless I missed it) is the radiation
exposure that happens when a virtual colonscopy is done. I don't have the
article in front of me but I seem to recall reading that it produces what
I consider to be dangerous levels of radiation. A regular colonoscopy
causes NO radiation exposure. You may want to do a google search on this
subject before you consider it. Perhaps someone can compare the radiation
exposure produced by a virtual colonscopy compared to a standard dental
X-Ray.
Jason
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I think you are losing it Jason. I quit :-) ...Pete

Pete,
I understand your point. I should have made it clear in my prior post that
I was providing information for the poster that was considering a virtural
colonscopy.
I agree with the comments that you made in your post.
See the next post.
Regardless--I am sorry for my error.
Jason

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