Re: Symptoms Much Worse At Night

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 16:59:50 -0400, "Pete" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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>"Ed" <ed@xxxxx> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 14:58:18 -0400, "Pete" <pete@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>>>"Ed" <ed@xxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> In the first years I had retention only during the day, caused by such
>>>> things as having to drink 4 glasses of water for an ultrasound.
>>>
>>>Ed...I have had many ultrasounds in my life (usually at my request - only
>>>takes the nurse 5 minutes), and I have never drank water before them. I
>>>drink water for the urine flow test, not the ultrasound.
>>>
>>>I am curious about this. Your uro's must have a different approach. I
>>>can
>>>kind of see the logic, but not totally. The ultrasound checks how much
>>>urine is in your bladder immediately after you have urinated or voided, to
>>>see how much urine you are retaining (for whatever reason - usually a
>>>blockage of some sort).
>>>
>>>I don't necessarily see why you need to drink water first (I guess to
>>>insure
>>>you have urine in your bladder, assuming your kidneys are working okay).
>>>In
>>>other words you don't need to drink water first to do the ultrasound.
>>>Whether you drink first or you don't drink first, if you void yourself
>>>before the test your bladder should be empty, or close to empty. Do you
>>>see
>>>my point. Like I said, I have never drank the water first. I find this
>>>interesting and welcome your comments back on what your uro's logic is for
>>>drinking the water. Thanks...Pete
>>
>> Pete,
>>
>> Those ultrasounds were done in connection with prostate biopsies. As I
>> understand it, the water is needed to help assess the condition of the
>> bladder. The bladder examination is done before voiding.
>>
>> Of course the primary use of the ultrasound is to guide the needle
>> into the prostate, and the water is not needed for that. In fact, you
>> void before the biopsy part of the procedure. Since I know that my
>> bladder is probably in satisfactory shape, I now omit the water to
>> avoid acute retention.
>>
>> Ed
>
>Ed...I haven't had the biopsies you are talking about (other than the
>samples they took during my TURP, which almost ruined me and did not help).
>
>Would you please explain a little more. Are you having a rectal ultrasound
>for the biopsy, and where do they insert the needle from, and are you awake.
>And you mention the bladder exam is done before voiding (is that another
>ultrasound with the roller ball and lubricant on your belly - I'm confused -
>that was the ultrasound I was talking about for my retention tests only).
>So are you talking about two ultrasounds (i.e. one for the biopsy and one
>for the bladder exam)...Pete
>
Correct -- two separate ultrasounds, done in one session (with a 5-min
recess in between for voiding).

Ed
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