Re: Roger Hunter - Let Me Make This Perfectly Clear :-)

On Jan 28, 5:15 pm, t...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (Thomas A. Russ) wrote:
Petra <petras...@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
On Jan 26, 9:36Ž pm, rog...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

I've asked Alan and John already but are you of the opinion that no
other scientists read these newsgroups?
Really, I was just thinking out loud, opening the topic for
discussion.

Roger

Well Roger,

I don't know how many scientists read this newgroup, but from what
I've seen most are not willing to declare they are scientists... so I
don't know.

How odd.  I find that it is generally fairly easy to tell the scientists
from the non-scientists based on what they write, and especially on the
sorts of questions they ask and issues that they address.

This does not necessarily mean that they have particular academic
credentials, but rather that they are able to think and approach issues
using the scientific method.  This applies to both professional
scientists and amateur scientists.  The key is to be concerned about the
integrity of the process and methodology.

In fact, a discussion of methods for a proper evaluation is quite a nice
discussion to be having here.  It shows, to me at least, that Roger is
concerned with coming up with an objectively defensible methodology for
evaluation of the statistical significance of the predictions.

Do you have any particular thoughts on that issue?

--
Thomas A. Russ,  USC/Information Sciences Institute

Hello Tom,

At times there are issues which are not apparent to those outside of
the immediate persons involved and such is the case in regard to my
evaluation with Hunter and of course this is not the time or place to
discuss these issues. Please keep in mind I do like him, but I have
issues in regard to his methodology and practices which I find very
unprofessional.

*Discussion* itself is a good thing, but on newsgroups of course one
opens themselves up to habituatal harrasment which is not necessary,
meaningful or useful and especially so when some of those who offer
inappropriate remarks don't even know the topic that well. These days
most may feel "grown up' but somehow that seems to get lost when
people go onto the Internet.

Skywise's remark below about posting predictions on newsgroups I find
inappropriate as well because it brings on the same old haranage which
I was subject to for years. I think if one intends to be professional
about their work then newsgroups are not the place to "set-up shop" as
it were. On my web page I issued appropriate notices and gave my
background so the viewers would know I was not a professional, but I
did know my topic very well from years of research. And as most
know, most of my successs has come in earthquake safety and I'm proud
to have been able to do as much as I could and yet some still refuse
to give me credit for it though I did the work and paid for it out of
my pocket in time and expense, which is rather frustrating to say the
least.

I am leaving this area tomorrow and will devoting much of my time to
writing and I do not expect to be posting messages to this newsgroup,
however, I may dictate a message or two to my friend Don in Hollister
to post for me. But please know I will not be ignoring you, but will
be doing something meaningful for a change.... LOL

Tom, thanks for your input. It's very much appreciated.

Best Regards,

Petra Challus
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