Re: Detecting ETI via CO2
- From: "Brad Guth" <ieisbradguth@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 21 Jul 2005 07:19:32 -0700
Very good outside-the-box thinking, that the likes of CO2 is actually a
darn good element for sustaining something of life which may or may not
be of life as we know it.
Actually, a nicely pressurized and bone dry CO2 environment isn't all
that anti-life supportive as you'd think, especially of the CO2 and S8
that's surrounding Venus is quite dry until you're situated well above
a somewhat cooler nighttime season of perhaps 35~45 km as being within
the acidic and thus wet haze zone of the thick clouds situated above,
which of course represents of where such megatonnes worth of sulphuric
acid (SO3+H2O-->H2SO4) resides and, whereas that nasty acidic substance
can be easily processed via vacuum distillation, so as to efficiently
extract such elements as pure H2O from those massive clouds.
Without the likes of physically sequestered CO2 within our wet
environment is where the likes of diatoms might be happy campers but,
we'd all be quite dead. Upon Venus is where the vast bulk of their CO2
is essentially in dry-storage, as being sequestered throughout the dry
lower atmosphere. Without an external abundance of moisture is where
CO2 is not all that life threatening of an element, not any more so
than dry S8 or most any nasty element you'd care to investigate. Above
the acidic nighttime clouds of Venus is where there's even a good layer
of O2 as re-identified by team KECK. Imagine that, loads of H2O and O2
being just about anywhere you'd care to look, and of applied technology
that would have allowed even human forms of life to coexist upon the
surface, though I'd have to assume not naked unless we're talking about
cold-blooded exoskeletals.
The fact that applied technology could have resolved most if not all of
the life support upon Venus that's required of sustaining humans is
what's so gosh darn interesting, especially of these days when there's
been ample observational evidence of what's looking so darn artificial
that's hard to pass up unless you're anti-ET no matters what.
It seems that ever since I've shared my interpretation of what's
situated upon Venus, of the related topics and of whatever research has
become just as taboo and/or just as nondisclosure as our moon. Asking
and/or implying anything Venus becomes another topic/author death
sentence of my getting stalked, summarily bashed and/or simply banished
for the mere thoughts of whatever's the least bit outside the existing
mainstream box that's testing and/or stressing whatever our highly
snookered and thus easily dumbfounded humanity has become collectively
assimilated into believing, and that's obviously in spite of whatever's
the truth as having been easily avoided via evidence exclusions from
the very beginnings of recorded time. Selectively exclude upon evidence
and you can be made to believe in anything, including in the virtues of
creating and sustaining a perpetrated cold-war, as well as that of
inventing WMD that were supposedly so well hidden under each and every
one of those Muslim oily rocks.
Mention, suggest or request most anything as to the subjective
interpretations of a given surface image that's offering a healthy or
robust composite of 36 looks per pixel and offering an 8-bit depth
worth of contrast, as to whatever the radar signal is returning as
offering such interesting patterns of highly unusual (one of a kind)
formations that so happen to look exactly like a rational community
plan of highrise structures, a bridge, reservoirs and a nearby tarmac
that's otherwise surrounded by perfectly natural looking terrain
features is obviously a bit of asking for a pot load of trouble in
River City. Even several of the most likely natural attributes that are
out of this world, such as the massive 'fluid arch' that's perhaps
accommodating a mud like substance that's responsible for the leading
and trailing patterns of erosions, all of which is absolutely quite
large and spectacular to say the least. Although, of whatever's flowing
under that much atmospheric pressure and subsequency buoyancy, it seems
there's all sorts of viable alternatives of fluid elements that could
safely coexist, with little if any vapor phase taking place.
Of course, it doesn't seem to help whenever I've tossed in a few of the
most common/basic laws of physics, such as regarding the rather
enormous availability of various green/renewable energy via geothermal
and/or as derived from the rather considerable vertical differentials
of such a downright nifty atmosphere. Whereas having such spare and
100% renewable energy at the local disposal of whomever is making a go
of it, along with the easily extracted raw elements, whereas obviously
having all the energy in their world as to process upon and/or to
properly utilize such abundant raw elements isn't limited by other than
our arrogance and of our ET bigotry that's just about anywhere and
everwhere there's been an associanion with the likes of our NASA. Even
the physics of what's doable as to accommodating a massive rigid
airship is way more than just another what-if sort of interpretation
that's worth an open minded review and look-see, plus loads of somewhar
testy topics worth of tit-for-tat physics and science issues, that is
unless you're afraid of learning about whatever's there as having been
easily seen and/or easily realized once you get your head unstuck from
having been so otherwise brown-nosed into the nearest NASA certified
space-toilet.
The notions of air conditioning and/or whatever refrigeration can't
possibly be an insurmountable physics worth of a thermodynamics problem
when you're essentially surrounded by what's better off than most
freons, that being plain old dry as a bone CO2 (R-744) that can be
either further compressed and/or vacuum processed in order to achieve
whatever pressure differentials and thus thermal energy
transfer/extractions worth of Venus Thermal Units (VTUs) you'd care to
accomplish. How hard could it possibly be as to creating a pressure
differential, by which the available energy can then be converted from
one thermal energy level to that of another? Thus the real question
with regard to absolute loads of applied physics that'll require a wee
bit of the local process energy shouldn't be about the amount of
required energy, as much as it's about what to do with and/or to fully
utilize with having so freaking much spare and easily obtained energy.
In other words; if the mainstream status quo is insisting that
intelligent life supposedly can't possibly make even a tough go of it
upon Venus, then perhaps the likes of you and I can't possibly survive
on any other planet, especially not upon a Mars like planet where
nearly 100% of the necessary energy and all other items in support of
human life must be imported. Whereas the essentials for sustaining
other significant life upon Venus might be slight if requiring much of
anything from Earth, although I still wouldn't go there unless invited.
~
Life upon Venus offers a Township, Bridge and ET/UFO Park-n-Ride
Tarmac: http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-town.htm
The Russian/China LSE-CM/ISS (Lunar Space Elevator) at ME-L1
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/lunar-space-elevator.htm
Venus ETs, plus an updated topic list; Brad Guth / GASA-IEIS
http://guthvenus.tripod.com/gv-topics.htm
Meaning; there has nearly always been other significant life that's
perfectly capable of their having been situated upon Venus (at least on
behalf of accommodating ETs), and otherwise of that little issue about
our moon that's actually perfectly good for so many things once the
LSE-CM/ISS up and running and of sufficient robotics having been
efficiently and safely deployed, as for those functioning on behalf of
science, clean energy and for the very salvation of humanity. Unlike
what we've been told, there's nothing insignificant nor without good if
not essential cause and rewards pertaining to our moon, and unlike
those opposing absolutely anything and everything that represents
change, I simply can't but hardly think of anything but positive
thoughts about our moon as well as for Venus as being another perfectly
good thing for the salvation of Earth and humanity.
.
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