Re: OT: WAY OT - I'm Grumpy, Therefore I Blog

On Apr 6, 1:49 pm, Tim Daneliuk <tun...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Charlie Self wrote:
On Apr 4, 4:01 pm, Tim Daneliuk <tun...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
J. Clarke wrote:
jo4hn wrote:
Tim Daneliuk wrote:
http://heracletus.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/so-this-is-progress/
It depends upon one's requirements. You are obviously interested in
the aesthetics of fine photography and therefore are able to come
closer to your "minds eye" picture with analog equipment. Others
are
more interested in convenience and cost to get a "really good"
picture that is easily disseminated to friends and family on the
internet.
I once had a conversation with a young girl who lived with us for a
couple years regarding music. She asked me to listen to a CD of the
grunge band Nirvana, which I did. There were a couple of slow
numbers
that were melodic but the fast stuff was garbled words and guitar
noise. She told me that composers like Cobain were the poets of
her
generation. I guess I can accept that recalling that my parents
never
quite understood the existence of Chuck Berry and Hank Williams.
Is this progress or simply movement? I would certainly hang one of
your photos on my wall rather than one of mine. At the same time, I
am quite happy with an inexpensive digital camera and will never buy
something that requires film and chemicals. And yes, I dumped my
POS
20 YO Craftsman CS in favor of a PM66. Progress definitely.
If you read the complaint it's basically that 35mm doesn't give the
same results as medium format. All the rest is misdirection. If
small format isn't "good enough" for him, then why was he even trying
to use it? Seems to me that he doesn't really understand his
equipment if he expected any different result from the one he got.
I believe you need to reread what I wrote. The comparison was between a
state-of-the art *digital* camera and medium format. The digital came
up short because - in my judgment - it ends up having the same performance
more-or-less as a 35mm film camera - something I long ago realized could
not do what I wanted.

Bullshit, Tim. You wrote you were using a "prosumer" grade DSLR of

Why always such a potty mouth? The term 'prosumer' was coined
years ago to signify equipment that lives at the high end of
consumer and/or at the low end of pro gear. It is the best of
former and the entry level of the later.

10MP. State of the art DSLR today is 21 or 22MP in full 35mm frame.

And every pro uses only 22Mp? I don't think so. Nikon's highend
full frame CCD camera (D3) is only 12Mp. Only Canon has a 22Mp
camera in DSLR format ... well, that's not quite right if you
consider the new Hasselblad.


Where did I state that every pro used a 21 or 22 MP camera? You made a
statement about a 10 MP being state of the art. That's nonsense. At
the moment, 21-22 MP is, in 35mm sized frame. APS-C champ is 14.2 MP
in the Pentax K20D. Medium format is about 39 MP, IIRC. AFAIK, only
Canon has bodies with sensors that exceed 20 MP. I'm not sure, why
Nikon chose to stop at 12, but I do know it has a 64 frame buffer, so
you can literally keep shooting until your card is full. Canon's big
shooter lets you change back to about a 12 MP level to get the immese
buffer. With a 16 GB card, that's a lot of shots. I get 976 raw+JPEG
out of my 10 MP Pentax. I don't bother to learn much more about
theCanons and Nikons, as they don't fit my plans, now or ever. They
are far too costly, and the lenses are almost as murderously expensive
as the bodies. Too, I'm still trying to figure out how they coordinate
the 51 AF points in the Nikon D3. Sometimes I wonder if maybe just
one easily movable point might not be better. Put it where you want
the focus and shoot. Startling. A great similarity to the old split
screen/microprism collar days, something I miss.

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