Re: Looking for backup ISP



On 4/9/2006 10:52 PM Gooey TARBALLS mumbled something about the following:
"And why is that? With gmail, or yahoo,"

Yahoo is NOT a POP3 account; GMAIL is.

Yes, any e-mail account can be accessed from any connection to the WWW, but only POP3 accounts can be accessed via one's e-mail client via such a connection. Those of us who carry their laptops everywhere, like using an onboard e-mail client to read, write and store their e-mail.

If you don't use Outlook Express or similar, its hard to explain all the benefits. In fact, if you are new to such an e-mail client, it may be months before you can appreciate the benefits.

If you had a JUNO account years ago, you have an idea of how it works. You can read and compose off-line or not. Means, for instance, that you can attend to your e-mail on the light in and connect and up/down load from the motel room. With the NetZero $9.95 account, this would translate into free Internet e-mail access 3 times a day every day all year long. Not bad for a fellow traveler with a notebook.


"Odinn" <bqvaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:kt6og3-tdi1.ln1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On 4/9/2006 2:29 PM Gooey TARBALLS mumbled something about the following:
Yep, forgot about Google - a FREE POP3 e-mail account. I've got one of those, too.

POP3 is KEY. You do not want an account that requires the ISP's mail client. You want an account that will work with most any e-mail client and Outlook Express.


"Bob" <wrobertdavis@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:1144597341.160906.82910@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I fully support keeping an email account separate from ISP domain.
Most people think you have to have an email address tied to your ISP
and that's not true. You can do it for free these days with Google mail
or AIM mail and 2 gb of storage included.

I've had a commercial yahoo account for years in order to retain a
permanent email address and get rid of any advertising. I got it
originally when I moved overseas. Its been worth it.

Bob


And why is that? With gmail, or yahoo, or any of the other free services, you can access you mail from ANY web capable kiosk or internet cafe.


Look. I've been in the computer industry for 25+ years. I've written more applications than I care to think about for Mainframes, UNIX, DOS, Windows, etc. I've owned an ISP, and am pretty sure that I know what I'm talking about here. You haven't even learned how to trim sig's from messages yet.

POP is VERY insecure, easily hackable, and a very pisspoor method of receiving email. IMAP is only slightly better. Using POP3 or IMAP over SSL makes them a bit more secure, but there are no providers that use that, because it means explaining to the customer how to set it up instead of using default out-of-the-box settings.

Using a web interfaced free account is much better (provided it's using HTTPS during authentication), allowing you MUCH more freedom of where you can access email from. Outhouse Express allows you to download email from several different web based emails, not just POP or IMAP (which you keep forgetting, which is better than POP). Not to mention that Outhouse Express is the WORST email client you could ever use.

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