Re: New agenda at TOH? Norm teaching basics?



Greg G mused:
>Perhaps I'm jaded due to the poor quality of new construction here.
>I think it's just a case of Atlanta having been a boom housing market,
>and it attracted a lot of carpetbagging, skank developers like Ryland.
>
>We barely have building codes here, compared to the north, and the
>inspectors are willing to overlook just about anything - for a price.
>Maintenance on the unsupervised beaner built $400k crap put here is
>already huge. A large development nearby, less than three years old,
>is already having roofs replaced and structural problems. Not to
>mention the erosion and flooding problems due to the clear cutting and
>terracing of the natural roll of the landscape. They are truly
>abominations.
>
>Heck, we live in a 15 year old house that is in need of constant
>repair due to the low quality work and the total lack of code
>enforcement during it's construction.

Hey Greg, if you think that your descriptions of Mcmansions are just restricted to them or to your area, think again. Sadly, this greedy mentality has permeated every area, including here in the northeast - codes notwithstanding.

Our house was built in the late 70's, and you described it almost to a "T" in your description of problems. They even used cinder block for the basement when it had been outlawed here for home construction by code some 20 years earlier due to its problem of disintegrating from the wet ground. (And they didn't even have the decency to put sealer on the outside of the block) The building inspectors inspected just the first house in the development to be built, and signed off on all the other 'to be built' houses - leaving the builder to do anything he wanted. There isn't much of anything I can find in this house that was built properly or to code, including the electric and plumbing systems, the undersized floor joists, the phenomenal warpage in the walls, the floors that move up and down when you walk, every copper pipe joint springing leaks, improper heating system design, ect, ect, ect. The fact that a house today can get a certificate of occupancy is a testament to how much a builder can bribe the local officials. But when a homeowner fixes something and tries to get it inspected....

One of the largest builders in NJ is well known for building really nice looking houses/condo's/etc., but after people move in and discover what a peice of total crap it is, they are very often willing to take a huge financial hit by selling out immediately and moving. He hires all non-english speaking laborers for pennies on the doller and is presently worth billions. This seems to be the norm, not the exception here. And unfortunately, most all builders here are trying to compete with these scam artists and so can not afford to do things "right" lest they go broke. (At least that's their story)
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