Re: Delta discontinuing parts for older tools...

Wood Butcher said:

>"Greg G." <GregG@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in ignorance:
><snip>
>> Electronics manufacturers started doing this years ago, and will place
>> dates on the microfiche and computer parts lists. To the day that the
>> parts are no longer required by law to be stocked, they are loaded
>> into garbage rams and crushed. Employees are not allowed to take them
>> home, they do not donate them to a worthy cause, and you cannot buy
>> them as surplus. They are after the tax write-offs and accelerated
>> obsolescence of equipment in the field.
><snip>
>> Greg G.
>
>
>Not quite.

Yes, quite.

>Decades ago I worked for an electronics manufacturer and
>we surplused off some obsolete product inventory to the bottom
>feeders. They did not take adequate handling measures and
>introduced Electro-Static Damage to the parts (ESD does not
>always cause immediate failure and often results in infant mortality).
>The customers they sold the damaged parts to looked to us, as the
>manufacturer, to provide warrantee replacement/refund. Of course
>we wouldn't do this and explained why. The end result was that
>our reputation got tarnished. Ergo everything was crushed from
>then on. The tax write off was incidental. The accelerated
>obsolescence statement is pure bullshit as we informed all our
>customers (who had purchased any parts over the past 5 years)
>of the impending End-Of-Life for the parts and gave them 1 year to
>order parts for their lifetime repair needs. This is now pretty much
>standard procedure for EOL'ing a part in the electronics industry.

Mil contract Tektronix oscilloscope repair - This Decade:
http://www.thevideodoc.com/Images/ScopeHell02.jpg

We're talking a different paradigm here. This isn't Tektronix and a
contract on military oscilloscopes, or Fairchild supplying 74F293s to
a military or commercial manufacturer.

I'm talking consumer electronics - consumer equipment manufacturers.
They determine the EOL date when the model is introduced - this keeps
inventory at a minimum and support and obsolescence at a fixed point.

Bullshit? Hardly - consumer stuff is designed for specific life span.
You can often acquire a replacement part from the OEM, but not always.
Most brands use generic IC's, except for the masked-rom micros, but
not always. JVC, for instance, is fond of customizing LSIs, and then
discontinuing them before the sets are _actually_ EOL. They determine
the EOL date, not the unit's age, condition, or customer's desire.

ESD stands for Electro Static Discharge...
Damage is what you get afterwards... <g>

And I seriously doubt that ESD semiconductor moleholes were the reason
behind crushing 200,000 resistors, a truckload of 25XP22 CRTs, and
hundreds of various cabinet and mechanical parts.

>There are also no laws which I am aware of which require stocking
>of electronic parts. Military suppliers excepted.

Again - _Consumer_ equipment manufacturers used to be required to
stock replacement parts for a specific number of years - seven, I
believe. No one seems to be enforcing these things anymore, however.
Do they even enforce this anymore for other home appliances like
washers, dryers, and refrigerators? Consumer Products like Unisaws?

I personally had hoped to use my Unisaw longer than 7 years, or any
other arbitrary date limit determined by another.



Greg G.
.

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