Re: Social Security Admin or scam?


Odinn wrote:
> On 9/18/2005 12:28 PM Chris mumbled something about the following:
> > "Odinn" <bqvaa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:0tWdnaqkt55RHLDeRVn-jw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >>On 9/18/2005 9:45 AM Charlie Self mumbled something about the following:
> >>
> >>>Odinn wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>On 9/18/2005 8:31 AM Ron Magen mumbled something about the following:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Putting the 'scam or not' aside for a moment . . .
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm the first to admit that my Farsi is non-existent . . . but then
> >>>>>again
> >>>>>I'm not 'operating' in the Middle-East. A bit of an accent I don't mind,
> >>>>>HOWEVER if you are working - in a 'people communicating' position - you
> >>>>>should have a GOOD COMMAND & COMPREHENSION of the language of THAT
> >>>>>country.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I don't mean to 'interpret' for Charlie, but what really gets to me is
> >>>>>when
> >>>>>it is on 'your' dime, that this happens. You call 'Tech Support' for
> >>>>>computer/software assistance and get a heavily accented, barely
> >>>>>understandable voice, reading a 'script' {which may - or may NOT - have
> >>>>>anything to do with your problem}. It gets worse when you try to explain
> >>>>>that HIS answer has nothing to do with YOUR question . . . and are
> >>>>>angrily
> >>>>>informed that you can only be on the line for 7 minutes !!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>It's bad enough when the 'local number' for Verizon Customer Service is
> >>>>>across the country {I'm in PA, they are in AZ}, but at least they speak
> >>>>>clear English {so far !!}.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Ummm, when did the US establish a national language?
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Odinn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>We've ALWAYS had a national language, English. What we don't have is a
> >>>legally official language, and I'm coming to think that is a mistake,
> >>>as more and more groups come in and insist on having things done their
> >>>way, in their language. Diversity in that sense makes for absolutely
> >>>nothing but confusion.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Are you that stupid? Before English came to North America, there were
> >>several different languages that existed here before then. English wasn't
> >>the only language that came over before a good portion of North America
> >>became the US, there was German, French, Spanish, Dutch and several other
> >>languages. When the US was formed, there still existed all these
> >>languages, and we've added several more since then. Which one is the
> >>national language? Apache? Cherokee? Lakhota? Choctaw?
> >>
> >>--
> >
> >
> > Strange that a man calling people stupid, backs it up with elementary school
> > history facts.
> > Before Cherokee, humans in ( what is now) the US, grunted and banged as a
> > language. By your elementary reasoning we should accept that as a language
> > as well.
> >
> > The original languages in the US all melted into on language, English. For
> > a reason. A functioning country cannot function without commons.
> >
> > Wonder how this guy would feel if he had an accident, called 911 and they
> > did not speak English.
> >
> > Brings up the question. People in the US who cannot speak English, are they
> > a burden or a profit to our society?
> >
> > What was Andrew Dice Clay's joke??? :)
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> Let's see if you can follow this logic. Not everyone in the US has
> spoken English since the beginning of the US. Now, because we have
> people who speak something else, it's no longer okay that there are
> people who don't speak english? What about the vast differences between
> english in the Northeast and the deep south, or the midwest, or even
> California, for that matter. None of us speak the same english. We
> don't even speak english according to the Brits, so what is our national
> language again?
>
>
See if you can follow this logic: file your court papers in Farsi and
see what happens.

No one that I know of has said it is not OK to speak another language.
What is not OK is the insistence that the official systems in the U.S.
be made to use different languages and teach different languages. As I
recall, when the large mass of Italians hit the U.S., most of them
learned English as quickly as possible. Same with the Germans and the
French who showed up here. In fact, all the Vietnamese I know speak
pretty good English, as do most of the Pakistanis and Indians, though
their singsong accent often baffles me...quite possibly because of my
poor hearing at this point in my life.

English differs little in its written form from Alabama to Maine and
west to Washington and California, and doesn't change a whole lot in
Chicago, St. Louis and Des Moines.

Dialects of languages are common in all major languages. If you get
curious, Google Chinese and discover how many dialects a billion or two
people can form. In English, though, the written form remains the same.

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