Re: Organising DVD backups on HD

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


"Terry Pinnell" <terrypin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Renaming the individual .ifo files was something beyound my
original suggestion, of renaming the VIDEO_TS folders.

Yes, I see that now - I was hastily over optimistic!

Basicly, I feel it is best to treat the DVD as a whole object,
for the purpose of playback, and not try to "reach inside it"
and deal directly with the individual titles, for playback. That
way you have the benifit of the menus, you created to deal
with selecting things to playback.

I processed about 30 DVDs before the penny dropped last night. I've
just started going back through them to restore the original
'standard' names. But I think I'll pause and think this through. As I
originally mentioned,and as you say below ...

Each player seems to have their own way of approaching this.
Some do indeed respond badlly to changing the names of the
individual files of the folder.

While renaming the individual .ifo files for the VTS is new to
me, it may not be a totally lost cause. I'll look into it some more.

If you want to organize your video on your hard drive without
regard to "DVD backups", there are a number of other things
you can do. Simply using the file structure with useful names
for the clips and the folders you put them in, is one.

... I could abandon the 'exact backup' approach and instead keep the
individual VOBs under appropriate names. So my 2003 Hols folder would
just hold these two files:

Marl.VOB
Mayrhofen.VOB

I could then easily access those (e.g. in VideoRedo) to include clips
in new DVDs, and if my original DVD disc ever failed then I could
re-make the DVD in TDA 1.6 or whatever, albeit not necessarily an
exact reproduction.

One point I've read mixed opinions about is whether I should leave
those files with their VOB extensions, change them to MPG manually, or
run VOB2MPG on each of them?

If it matters, my stuff is mostly very simple. Family DVDs typically
with 1 to 8 'titles', each one usually corresponding to a button on a
main menu. (See example below.) In a few cases I've gone 'down' a
level to several chapters within a title.

Another point is the possible snag that some of the titles get split
into two or more sections if they're larger than 1GB. Here's an
example showing the files now on my HD within the folder
K:\DVD Archives\2006 Hols

VIDEO_TS.BUP 16 KB
VIDEO_TS.IFO 16 KB
VIDEO_TS.VOB 14,608 KB
VTS_01_0.BUP 14 KB
VTS_01_0.IFO 14 KB
VTS_01_1.VOB 321,182 KB
VTS_02_0.BUP 26 KB
VTS_02_0.IFO 26 KB
VTS_02_1.VOB 1,048,404 KB
VTS_02_2.VOB 34,336 KB
VTS_03_0.BUP 18 KB
VTS_03_0.IFO 18 KB
VTS_03_1.VOB 399,650 KB
VTS_04_0.BUP 20 KB
VTS_04_0.IFO 20 KB
VTS_04_1.VOB 745,776 KB

Here's the menu for that DVD:
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s247/terrypin999/2006Hols-Merging4.jpg

So the Berlin holiday was just a little too long for a single VOB. If
I followed the approach above I suppose I'd save these?

Sicily.VOB
Berlin-1.VOB
Berlin-2.VOB
Dartmoor.VOB
Pyrenees.VOB



There is no real point to having .vob files outside of the DVD
they were created for.

I don't remember If you mentioned which version of VideoReDo you
have, Plus or TVSuite.

The TVSuite version has an "Open Title from a DVD..." selection under
the "File"tab. With that you can select the whole Title and it can be
output
as one .mpg, with whatever name you wish and into the folder you designate.
(If you check the "Auto QuickStream Fix" box, you will have quicker access
to the file naming and destination dialog.)

With "Plus" you would probably have to do each .vob and join the multiple
.vob title into one .mpg. Again the output of the joiner can have any name
you wish and be placed in whatever folder you want.

There is no need for a "VOB to MPG" program with VideoReDo around.
And remember VideoReDo is very fast, you could be through those 30
DVDs in short order. You might also want to use the Quickfix tool, on any
troublesome files.

Mine is the Plus version. I'm a very infrequent user so even now I'm
still unfamiliar with most of its features. I opened each of the main
VOBs in turn and used Joiner > 'Add Current Project To Joiner List'.
Then finally 'Create Video from Joiner List'. That gave me the full
DVD, in this case as a file 2006-Hols.mpg. Very quickly as you said.
But of course that has now lost the identities of the 4 original
components. So finding a clip from say the Berlin holiday would be
that bit harder.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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