Re: Hard Drive configuration ? for Video Capture

On Aug 7, 5:36 pm, "Richard Crowley" <rcrow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"John"  wrote ...

Oh, I thought I could use a HD for perminent backup storage and make a
master DVD as well. If you don't use a HD for your backup of project
files what do you use?

I just answered that question extensively in the rec.video.production
newsgroup in a thread with the subject line: "Re: What is the best
back-up regime for a major Vegas project based on a BIG store
of raw video?"

I just read your reply on the other topic and yes for me I do keep all
Tapes I could just backup the project files not the actual data AVI
files. For now I like to keep the AVI files, at least the part that is
actually used in each project on a HD. HDs are cheep at least large
HDs. I know that keeping multiple projects on one drive runs into the
problem of a HD crash. But I don't have backup drive online.
I may have done that once and no I had no problems. Except that I
recently captured something and as I said I did see the glitches when
I played the video back at real time in the timeline of Premiere.

That rather confirms that the speed of your computer is NOT a problem.

But years ago it was taking all night to encode MPEG video
into the format you write to a DVD, etc. The speed of the
rendering process has NO affect on the quality of the product.
It only affects how long it takes to get there.

Even the speed of the HDs?

Yes, even the speed of the HDs. If any part of the computer is
slower than real-time, it just takes longer to process. The only
time speed is important is when you're trying to do something in
*real-time*.  (Capturing from analog video, or playing back from
the timeline, etc.)

So, about how many Discs have you made with the T-Ys

I'm likely over 1000 discs by now. I buy them in spindles of 100.

I am going to try T-Ys and see how they work.

I burn them at 4x (or slower) using LiteOn or Sony drives.
(It is reputed that LiteOn OEMs the drives with Sony's brand
name on them.)  Pioneer and Plextor are two other well-
respecteddrivebrands.
I am curious why a 16x drive will only allow us to write reliably at
4x? I was coping, today, a few DVDs using Roxio Sonic and it was
coping at only 1-2x.

and have you had any of the glitches I have?

No. I have never had a return from a customer since I've been
using T-Y.

Also, how do fingerprints, dust, scratches affect the discs?
I mean does this effect the discs any more than store bought/
pressed DVDs?

Surface defects (including all those you listed) likely have some-
what MORE effect on field-burned discs vs. store-bought,
moulded ones, IMHO. Since the contrast is lower, it takes
less of a defect to cause the data to drop below the threshold
of reliable recovery.

As I said the TDKs seem to me to be pretty sensitive to this
stuff? This is my non scientific study.

It could be because they are already so low contrast that it
doesn't take much to distrupt reading the ones and zeroes.

I have an Epson 960 Photo printer that prints directly on the Disc.
I tried using a lable just once. I found it way tohardto line up
properly.
The DISCs on the Epson come out really professional.

Yes, I've been using an Epson R300 for several years, but I
just switched to a Dymo DiscPainter because it is faster and
more reliable.

I tried verifying the disks for awhile but I never got any errors so I
think it is a waist of time. I just run the disc in my DVD player to
verify that bit is OK. Even after a good verify process I still got
the glitches described.

Then that is more evidence that the discs read OK in a computer,
but not as good in a DVD player. Annother clear symptom of
marginal contrast, IME.

NO! The scratchdriveneeds to be a separatedrive. You
don't want ANY of your media (audio, video) files competing
with the operating system.

What exactly do you mean? My PC can use a maximum of 3 HDs. So if I
use one for the OS and the other 2 for RAID whichdrivehas the
scratch disk?

Sounds like annother exellent and compelling reason to dump RAID.
Why do you think your computer is limited to 3 HD?
I know for sure that the case only has room for 3 drives.
That is what the Manual says and the Dell tech support which was
looking at my exact system when we was chatting, said that I might be
able to use at least a 4th internal HD if I remove the CD writer drive
and use that bay for the hard drive. He was not sure whether the BIOS
would limit the computer to three drives. Unless you have information
to the contrary?
I hear you but if I am still bent on keeping RAID I assume I can use
another USB drive, if not a 4th internal drive for the scratch disk?
The Manual states that this computer is limited to 1.5T of hard drive
space.

Yes, none of the programs are 64Bit. And it looks like adobe is not
going to make a 64bit version of premiere pro any time soon. I would
be using win64 strickly so the software can access the full 4GB of
RAM. I have not looked into whether Premiere can actually read more
than 3GB RAM being a 32bit App.
Thanks for all the help.
So, As I said some times I get out of memory errors, My projects have
a lot of different Sequences. I hate when this happens. All these
things I am talking about just slow down and extend the time to finish
the project. I really have to solve these problems so I can
consentrate on my work instead of spending all this time figuring out
system errors/glitches and waisting 3 hours importing video that I
have to redo. As an example. I used to use an extenal Canopus Box for
analog capture and I had nothing but problems withe Premiere pro 2.0.
In short I had to plug and unplug the unit before it would sync up and
it would capture for awhile and then drop out. So I dumped it and got
the Intensity Pro card.

Doesn't sound worth the hassle to me.  You'd get much better
results from things like having separate boot/system disc, data
disc, and scratch disc.

So, what kind of work do you do if I may ask?
.

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