Re: XP setup screen does not fill screen

On Aug 6, 3:19 pm, "Smarty" <nob...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 8/06/2008, Noel8 posted this:
On Aug 6, 8:36 am, "Smarty" <nob...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On Aug 6, 7:47 am, "Smarty" <nob...@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
"Noel8" <harri85...@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I have a 22'' LCD/vga HDTv MONITOR Each time i have to reinstall
XP,
the setup screen is not centered so I can see ALL buttons that i need
to press to get to the next function. I spend a lot of time moving
the
mouse in the general area guessing where the arrow or button is. I
called the tech and the idiot and i use the word loosely, told me go
to windows and change the resolution...I told him how can i change
the
resolution in windows when its not installed? True once i do get into
windows then i am able to change resolution and it does fill the
screen nicely...but its the setup that is the problem. has anyone
here
have similar problems with one of these monitors and able to correct
that part? Its an excellent monitor otherwise..but rotten support.
If your problem(which is often called "overscan") only occurs when
installing/reinstalling Windows, and not when Windows is running, then
your
only remaining remedies are to use your HDTV monitor's internal menu
and
settings to temporarily adjust your monitor to make these hidden
buttons
appear, and if your monitor has no such range of adjustment, then to
replace
your video card with one which has better support for your specific
HDTV.
I
don't believe the XP setup program has any provisions whatsoever to
change
the monitor/overscan settings, and you are thus left with the 2
options I
have mentioned.

You might, for example, try going through your HDTV settings to see if
your
menus allow to change the "Size", the "Centering", the "Height" of
your
display. Any of these should allow you to temporarily move the image
to
see
things at the edges which would otherwise be in the invisible
overscanned
area at the edge of the display.

Consult your HDTV owner's manual or web site to get a good
understanding
of
what your menu options are.

Good luck,

Smarty

HI, thanks...yes my manual has 2 functions, called P-Mode, P-Size, but
i believe its limited to the TV and not the VGa MODE. Although why 2 I
don't know. They make the typical changes one wants viewing TV...4-3,
normal,zoom. I am not able to get to that menu in the VGA mode,
unfortunately..at least not that i am aware of...As you can see by my
OG post, the results i got from the Vendor's tech support, its
hopeless.
Again Video card with HDTV seems limiting itself to the TV mode. Even
when I do get to my Windows XP screen its not completely centered, the
one with the moving ribbon as its loading windows...but thereafter the
XP views are normal. There is another function called P-Size and its
function says

The end of your previous reply was missing, and the last part of your
message is incomplete "There is another function called P-Size and its
function say". I am not quite sure what you intended to say.

I would go through the menus while using the computer input mode and see
which menu items actually do work. If one of them allows you to
re-center,
shrink, or shift the display to temporarily expose the overscanned area,
this is the menu you will need to set before doing another XP reinstall.
If
you are completely convinced that your monitor will not allow such
changes
when in the computer/VGA mode, then your only remaining choice is to
replace
your video card, since there is no way to modify the Windows XP
installer
software.

There is a very remote possibility that your HDTV as well as your
present
video card may have yet another form of connection to temporarily hook
up
your HDTV to your computer in a low resolution manner. This would be
easily
determined by examining the connectors on your video card at the back of
your computer to see if there is a "Video Out", "S Video Out" or some
other
connection method. If there is, then you might consider connecting your
TV
to your computer temporarily to this port when reinstalling XP since it
may
not have overscan issues.

Smarty

HI Smarty, sorry about that ...I did find a way in setup...to move the
screen vertically and horizontally. I thought that the menu only
applied to the TV section. Thank for your interest.:)

Before you told us how you seem to have made it usable, I was going to add
to Smarty's suggestion: instead of using a different video card, use an
old monitor that you happen to have in your garage :-)

Especially if you could plug it into a separate output on your video card
during setup.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino) letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom")

Gino's suggestion is a very good one I failed to consider, and in fact have
used such an approach once myself !! Glad to hear that you found the menu
control Noel, and yhou should now be able to move your display around during
or before boot time of the XP installer to see the whole screen.

Smarty

Yes, I thought of that to about an older monitor...But Not everyone
has one in their attic or basement.:)
.