Re: I'm At My Wits End!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


"Scubajam" <jmcgauhey@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:e5a9fa05-0825-47f4-af82-0a6e589586c4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Jun 3, 3:14 pm, "David Ruether" <druet...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm about to give up on HDV. It was hard enough
outputting my first HDV video (it took three editing
programs to finally succeed [that story is here, at --
www.donferrario.com/ruether/hdv-editing.htm]), but

David
I've been editing HDV with Ulead Media Studio Pro 8 for 2.5 years
now. I have VS11+ but seldom use it. The problem you mention using
SR has been documented. It is minimized with update, not available to
trial version.

-- Did you mean VP? If so, I have the latest updates for the
full version of 8b.

In reading your hardware, I really stopped when seeing how old the
hard drives are, and then one having three partitions. Partitions are
not the same as having separate hard drives and I wonder if this is
the problem with Vegas. Use 3 eSATA drives, newer ones of fairly high
capacity.

--I use three distinct drives for editing, same as what you
suggested below. The "C" for the Vegas program, one for
the source files, and one for the streaming (.m2t) file. Note
"PTravel's" post on rec.video.production - he used a laptop(!)
with a single (not particularly fast...) HD for editing a 55
minute HDV video. For my short videos (6-12minutes),
what I have should be fine.

I hope you have stopped all Startup programs (Start - Run -
"msconfig" - Startup - Disable All - reboot, unplug internet as no
protection, edit. After edit can Enable All). This usually clears up
most problems.

-- Worth a try - but I do at least shut off the screen saver,
download the latest version of the antivirus software (which
is not Norton...;-), and reboot the computer just before
attempting to export video to a file...

I also question your understanding of the situation when you say HDV
has the same datarate as DV. True both take up 13+ gigs per hour, but
HDV is 25,0000 kps bitrate, about 4X what DV is.

-- I think this is incorrect. If you have the same data capacity
and the same recorded time, by definition you have the same
data rate...

That's where the
problem is for many computer configurations. You need a good video
card even though it is only 2D, not 3D like gaming.

-- Why? I think the card could be pulled out of the computer
completely if you could operate the program controls without
seeing the mouse. The video card should make no difference
except for viewing the program and the preview window...

And fast hard
drives, not partitioned. It would be much better to have one
partition on a hard drive than three when doing HDV. Of course you
know that you should have work file on one drive, then render to
another drive (not to another partition on same drive). And program
files on a 3rd separate drive (the slowest or IDE is OK).

-- See above...

This will
often save 25% render time, esp if both video drives are eSATA. I use
6 internal drives with 2.5tbytes, plus 4 external drives I swap
around. While I don't use Vegas and try to avoid Sony so as to not
support their paranoid pirate and DRM attitude, I must say I've heard
good things about Vegas doing HDV. I suspect your red or black or
frame problems is due to a hardware issue, not a program issue.
Timing conflicts between program and virus protection and other TSR's
can do what you describe. That's why you must stop all Startup
programs, even those not in Startup folder. No email programs going.
And don't use any Norton products if you are doing video. Other
companys also have control issues where they want to be king of
everything, and often conflict with the high demands our video
programs place on the hardware, esp HDV.

Jim McGauhey
Washington State

-- Thanks for the comments. The last may prove the most useful.
BTW, after I added 1 gig of RAM and another case fan, I attempted
another export to file this morning - and about 2/3rds of the way
through (not surprisingly), both Vegas and XP disappeared together.
Since then, we did the following:
-- ran system file checker on XP, and some problems *were* found
-- checked all the HDs and partitions for file errors (none)
-- removed all unused programs including Mini-DV editors and
the Raptor software and card, keeping only PE-4 and VP-8
-- checked for updates for XP and VP-8 (there were none)
-- turned off the screen saver
-- defragmented the "C" drive a few times (it didn't need it,
but...) and the others were good
Just before export attempts, I normally check for updates for the
antivirus program so the auto download doesn't interfere with video
export, and I then reboot the computer. I will try exporting again
this afternoon. If worse comes to worse, I may just export video
in five minute segments, assemble them on a timeline, and export
those (this should work since no rendering would be required.
-- DR


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