Re: Why are so many rubbish countries being allowed into the EU?


Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
> michaelnewport@xxxxxxxxx wrote in
> news:1122558918.049113.263090@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
> >> Not necessarily, could also be they're just not gifted accordingly.
> You
> >> can't have a society full of academics. There must be a place for
> >> people who prefer to work with their hands.
> >>
> > fine, let them work with their hands, but they have no right to moan.
>
> You sound a bit arrogant. Everyone has the right to criticise.
>
under communism you could criticize your boss and not your leaders,
under capitalism you can criticize your leaders and not your boss.

> >> applied to humans, and therefore ought to be kept under control.
> Humans
> >> have rights and needs, which are more important than economic
> >> ideologies.
> >>
> >
> > Do you mean every human has the right to a job ?
>
> The right to an income, more precisely. If a job is the only method to
> get one, then that is the next conclusion.
>
> > Wrong
>
> This answer of yours reveals a misunderstanding. Political positions
> aren't about "right" or "wrong". They are about interests and ethics.
>
there are people that want to work, there are people who expect
something for nothing

> > Should I pay you money for doing nothing ? No
>
> Who ever asked you to do that? Don't change the subject.
>
you did by saying people have a right to income/job,

> > There are too many humans on this planet,
>
> Not really. The planet has enough resourced to feed and shelter 6
> billion people and some more, no problem. The resources are unfairly
> distributed because economic mechanisms prevent it.
>

yes, really. Oil will run out in our lifetime.
I agree resources are unfairly distributed, life is unfair, pay
attention in School because its your best chance of a decent life.

> > Life is full of market forces whether you like it or not.
>
> Political conditions help them to prevail. We can change political
> conditions such that market forces don't prevail where they do damage.
>
People are stupid, they do not vote for utopia they vote for their own
interests.

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