Re: Southwest allowing reservations only through March 31, 2006
- From: A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:35:51 GMT
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VS <shmat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> In article <U0gsf.40838$q%.25974@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>>> What the ADA specifically says is that any service animal
>>>>accompanying a disabled person must be seated in the bulkhead of the
>>>>aircraft. In most to all cases, that does mean the first row of the
>>>>aircraft.
>>>
>>> Only if the first row is in the same class of service that the disabled
>>> passenger purchased.
>>
>>Not according to the law for that.
>
> Here is the law, 14 CFR 382.38:
> http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=14&PART=382&SECTION=38&YEAR=1999&TYPE=TEXT
>
> Now, which part of
>
> (i) Carriers are not required to furnish more than one seat per ticket
> or to provide a seat in a class of service other than the one the
> passenger has purchased.
>
> do you not understand, littlejohn?
you obviously didn't read part 3 of it, which once again,
states:
14 CFR 382.38
(3) For an individual traveling with a service animal, the carrier
shall provide, as the individual requests, either a bulkhead seat or a
seat other than a bulkhead seat.
Source: http://airconsumer.ost.dot.gov/rules/382SHORT.htm
> This is your law, littlejohn. Learn it and get over it.
See above.
>>If the bulkhead is in that
>>section, and the person travelling with the service animal requests the
>>bulkhead seat, according to the ACAA, it must be given to them.
>
> Only if it is in the same class of serive that the passenger purchased.
> Here is the law, littlejohn:
>
> ``Carriers are not required [...] to provide a seat in a class of
> service other than the one the passenger has purchased''
> (14 CFR 382.38)
>
> Learn the law, littlejohn, and stop abusing it. If you don't like
> the law, lobby to change it. I doubt you'll find much success.
Once again, see above. You obviously don't see further than you
have to.
>>The law is there, simply in black and white. If you don't believe it,
>>read it. I provided the links previously.
>
> You never posted any link to the actual law (14 CFR 382.38), but I will:
> http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=14&PART=382&SECTION=38&YEAR=1999&TYPE=TEXT
Actually, I did. post #34 in this entire thread, which
included:
http://www.dlrp.org/html/topical/transportation/trans_serviceanimals.html
You obviously have selected reading as well as selected
hearing.
> I will also quote verbatim:
>
> ``Carriers are not required to furnish more than one seat per ticket
> or to provide a seat in a class of service other than the one the
> passenger has purchased.''
>
> Which part of ``not required to provide a seat in a class of service
> other than the one the passenger has purchased'' do you not understand?
>
>>(3) For an individual traveling with a service animal, the carrier
>>shall provide, as the individual requests, either a bulkhead seat or a
>>seat other than a bulkhead seat.
>
> And, immediately after this, it says, in black and white:
>
> (i) Carriers are not required to furnish more than one seat per ticket
> or to provide a seat in a class of service other than the one the
> passenger has purchased.
>
> This is your law, littlejohn. If you don't like, get over it.
>
>>>>Found that out on a COA flight with service animal in tow to EWR. Ended
>>>>up displacing a customer to Business class from 1st because of it.
>>>
>>> You are making up facts. Continental does not have any aircraft with
>>> both business and 1st class.
>>
>>Actually, I'm not
>
> Yes, you are. Continental does not have any aircraft with both
> business and 1st class. You are not only a liar, you are a scammer.
> You abuse airline agents' lack of familiarity with ACAA and demand
> seats in first class when the law explicitly says that the airline is
> not obligated to provide them.
Were you on my flight? If you were, I hope you enjoyed the
flight. That tram around EWR is a bear!
Anyway, all airlines are required to have a copy of this law
available for public viewing at every terminal or customer service
desk. That is another required provision of this law. But then again,
you'd know that if you read that. Anyway. I've proved my point. If you
don't like it, too bad. I'm done here.
BL.
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