Re: Fed's quest harder than Tiger's


"Lindsay Went" <lewent@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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We've been through this before. Tiger's road is harder because he doesn't
get the benefit of a good draw. In golf, you can avoid no one in the
event.

Not that Federer really need fear anyone, but I'm sure there are certain
players at certain times he'd just as soon avoid.

Tiger can't avoid any nemesis. They *all* get a shot at him. And they're
all grasscourters, not clay courters trying to defeat Federer on
hardcourts or grass. Tiger has no such luxury.

Dave


Tiger gets a lot more time. Federer doesn't get so many years at the peak
to win the necessary Slams. If Federer has a poor year, it will really
hurt. Tiger is a lot better than Nicklaus was at finishing off chances to
win majors too. Nicklaus had 19 2nd places to go with his 18 wins. One
might note some of Jack's challengers were a bit better than some of
Tiger's :)

In any case the tennis record isn't nearly as prestigious for mine as the
golf one due to the impacts of the amateur/professional tennis split plus
the weakness of the Australian Open. While we could argue forever about
who would have won what had the professionals been able to play all those
years, I suspect that it wouldn't be that hard to get agreement that 13
wouldn't have been the target for Pete to chase in the first place.
Similarly, had the Australian Open been on rebound ace a decade or so
earlier, Borg wouldn't have finished at 11 :)

Lindsay.

Gotta agree 100%. Tennis slam records are flawed for the reasons you
mentioned. There's a good chance that Borg, who finished with just three
less slams than Pete, could have posted an unreachable number -- and
probably should have.

Also, yes, Tiger does have lots of time to achieve what's necessary. My only
point was that Tiger does not get easier draws by playing claycourters on
grass or hardcourt; he plays grasscourters on grass every day, and can't
avoid anyone in the draw.

Either way, they're comparable. Tiger is more likeable and has a better
story. There's a reason why he's the most recognized athlete on the planet
(even bigger than Agassi and Jordan), and why Federer can walk down Times
Square and not be recognized.

So, most media are going to favor Tiger on this issue just on likeability.

Dave


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