Re: 3km
- From: Martin Smith <beeties@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:34:08 +0100
"Micheal Artindale" <micheal.artindale@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>"
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Micheal Artindale wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>>I finally did 3km in 2 hrs.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>Was it due to the drills? Was it due to something else?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>I dont know, all I do know is that in 2hrs, I did 3 km.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Without stopping?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>That means you can probably do 5k in 4 hours. Only 3k more to
>squeeze
>> >> >
>> >> > in.
>> >> >
>> >> >>No.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>3 plus 3 is 6.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > So, it wasnt just me who could not figure out that math equation?
>> >> >
>> >> > I dont feel so bad.
>> >>
>> >> What does 3 + 3 refer to?
>> >>
>> >> I said if you can do 3k in 2hrs, then you can probably do 5k in 4hrs.
>5k
>> >> + 3k is 8k. That means you still have to increase your average speed
>> >> enough to squeeze 3k more into 4hrs.
>> >
>> >Actually, lets do some math i did 4km in 2.75 hrs, so, to do 8km at
>roughly
>> >that speed is = 5.5 hrs
>>
>> Do you really think you can even-split an 8k given your current
>> training regimen? You can't figure that wayl. After the first 4km you
>> will be tired. The second half will be slower.
>
>Then, yes, now... not quite so bad.
>
>>
>> >Now, I did 3km in 2 hrs, using that number, 8km at that speed is = 5.33
>hrs
>> >
>> >I can do the math, it seams Mr. Smith, you cannot.
>>
>> I think what you'll find, Michaeaaeal, is that your math and your
>> swimming don't match.
>
>But neither does your math.
My math is a lot closer to correct than yours. If you think you can
double your best 4k time and use that as your estimate for an 8k time,
you're wrong.
>> >> Now you probably feel a lot worse.
>> >>
>> >Nope. I feel great, aside from the soreness
>>
>> Look, you get sore every time you try to work at what for most people
>> isn't even a warmup pace, or when you go a distance that isn't much
>> further than a warmup. That means you are out of shape, and you are
>> planning to swim an 8k in open water in seven months. And now you are
>> deluding youself into believing that right now you can hold your best
>> 4k pace for 8k.
>
>For your average person swimming 5 times a week, 2 hrs a day, and not just
>doing crawl, what is typical?
I'm an average person. I'm an average masters swimmer. At age 56, if I
could train 5x2hrs per week, in seven months I could go 8k in open
water in under three hours.
>All I know is I am getting better. I dont care what I should be at. I care
>that I am doing better than I have done before.
>
>For me, any race, or for that matter, any practice, is not about being
>first.
>
>It is about being better than I was before.When I was racing, I came in DEAD
>last, not last place, BUT, Dead last. I was pitiful at best. Why did I keep
>doing it?
>
>In 2 years I went from being a non swimmer to learning how to swim, and in 1
>year, loosing 15 seconds off my time.
It usually takes a few lessons to learn to swim, maybe 20 one-hour
lessons over a summer. It took you two years? Why did it take that
long? What are we dealing with here?
>Yes, That was a while ago, but, that is still the same reason I do things. I
>dont care how i measure up. I dont care if it takes me 10 hours to do 8
>kilometres. I dont care if it takes longer. I dont set time limits on
>things. I set goals of completion. So what if it takes me so long to do it?
>Realy, what does it matter? I am enjoying myself. I am getting good
>excersise. I am doing something healthy, unlike alot of people my age.
>
>At least I am not lazy, like yourself, and yes, we now have the proof that
>you did say that.
>
>>
>> You may be right, but if you are right, it means you aren't working
>> hard at all when you swim 4k in 2.75 hours.
>
>Actually most of the time, acheiving 2.5km in 2hrs, it isnt at breakneck
>speeds. I sometimes push hard, like the 3km, or not quite so, 1.7km in 2
>hrs. Sometimes it is just to relax, others, it is to burn of energy (anger,
>annoyance, ... better than using my fists.)
You're saying you were pushing hard to finish 3k in 2hrs. That's 2.4
seconds per meter. You are 25 years old. You are in the prime of your
athletic life. Do you have a muscle problem?
>>You can easily swim 4k in
>> 2.75 hours. If that's the case, why are you asking for all this
>> advice?
>
>I realy am not asking for advice to get better. I dont want your advice. you
>are rude and insultful. You are disrespectful. I do not care anymore what
>advice you have, as you do not know how to give it.
Then we're done.
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