Re: 3km
- From: "Micheal Artindale" <micheal.artindale@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 02:55:16 -0500
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> >> >>
> >> >>>Micheal Artindale wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>I finally did 3km in 2 hrs.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Was it due to the drills? Was it due to something else?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I dont know, all I do know is that in 2hrs, I did 3 km.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Without stopping?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>That means you can probably do 5k in 4 hours. Only 3k more to
squeeze
> >> >
> >> > in.
> >> >
> >> >>No.
> >> >>
> >> >>3 plus 3 is 6.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > So, it wasnt just me who could not figure out that math equation?
> >> >
> >> > I dont feel so bad.
> >>
> >> What does 3 + 3 refer to?
> >>
> >> I said if you can do 3k in 2hrs, then you can probably do 5k in 4hrs.
5k
> >> + 3k is 8k. That means you still have to increase your average speed
> >> enough to squeeze 3k more into 4hrs.
> >
> >Actually, lets do some math i did 4km in 2.75 hrs, so, to do 8km at
roughly
> >that speed is = 5.5 hrs
>
> Do you really think you can even-split an 8k given your current
> training regimen? You can't figure that wayl. After the first 4km you
> will be tired. The second half will be slower.
Then, yes, now... not quite so bad.
>
> >Now, I did 3km in 2 hrs, using that number, 8km at that speed is = 5.33
hrs
> >
> >I can do the math, it seams Mr. Smith, you cannot.
>
> I think what you'll find, Michaeaaeal, is that your math and your
> swimming don't match.
But neither does your math.
>
> >> Now you probably feel a lot worse.
> >>
> >Nope. I feel great, aside from the soreness
>
> Look, you get sore every time you try to work at what for most people
> isn't even a warmup pace, or when you go a distance that isn't much
> further than a warmup. That means you are out of shape, and you are
> planning to swim an 8k in open water in seven months. And now you are
> deluding youself into believing that right now you can hold your best
> 4k pace for 8k.
For your average person swimming 5 times a week, 2 hrs a day, and not just
doing crawl, what is typical?
All I know is I am getting better. I dont care what I should be at. I care
that I am doing better than I have done before.
For me, any race, or for that matter, any practice, is not about being
first.
It is about being better than I was before.When I was racing, I came in DEAD
last, not last place, BUT, Dead last. I was pitiful at best. Why did I keep
doing it?
In 2 years I went from being a non swimmer to learning how to swim, and in 1
year, loosing 15 seconds off my time.
Yes, That was a while ago, but, that is still the same reason I do things. I
dont care how i measure up. I dont care if it takes me 10 hours to do 8
kilometres. I dont care if it takes longer. I dont set time limits on
things. I set goals of completion. So what if it takes me so long to do it?
Realy, what does it matter? I am enjoying myself. I am getting good
excersise. I am doing something healthy, unlike alot of people my age.
At least I am not lazy, like yourself, and yes, we now have the proof that
you did say that.
>
> You may be right, but if you are right, it means you aren't working
> hard at all when you swim 4k in 2.75 hours.
Actually most of the time, acheiving 2.5km in 2hrs, it isnt at breakneck
speeds. I sometimes push hard, like the 3km, or not quite so, 1.7km in 2
hrs. Sometimes it is just to relax, others, it is to burn of energy (anger,
annoyance, ... better than using my fists.)
>You can easily swim 4k in
> 2.75 hours. If that's the case, why are you asking for all this
> advice?
I realy am not asking for advice to get better. I dont want your advice. you
are rude and insultful. You are disrespectful. I do not care anymore what
advice you have, as you do not know how to give it.
> If you can easily swim 4k in 2.75 hours, then if you put some
> effort into it, you can swim 4k in 1.5 hours. Why don't you try that
> this weekend? Maybe you can already achieve your goal.
Sure. I will ensure that i take a week off work. To push myself that hard, I
would not be able to move the next day. If I ever got good enough to
actually be competitive, I would take a few days off work after the meet for
rest and recouperation.
>
> All crawl, no stopping, no hanging on the walls.
In a pool I natually stop. That is part of the problem of pool swimming.
Micheal
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