Re: MU finally buys Tévez for England record amount

On Jul 28, 11:49 am, Citizen <FlammesSomb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 27, 6:05 pm, SMT <symbiotr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





On Jul 27, 5:47 pm, Citizen <FlammesSomb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Why should it be considered "ransacking"?  The players aren't
commodities owned by their countries, and they (or their families/
legal representatives) sign these  contracts of their own free will..
In fact, it can be argued that this movement of youngsters makes all
parties better, because: a) the players benefit financially and
developmentally from playing in a more competitive league, b) the
country's national team benefits from the accelerated development and
marketing potential of young stars abroad, c) obviously the
"ransacking" club benefits as well.

We really don't need more discriminatory laws, whether they
discriminate on the basis of nationality or age.

I am against age discrimination (which, as you know is legal and
practiced constantly in Spain -- se busca señorita buena presencia
menor 25 años, etc.), but this is a very different question. Imagine
that it is not football players but the smartest kids of a poor
country that are being cultivated and bought... True, some countries
have absolute advantage, namely Brazil and, to much lesser degree,
Argentina. Brazil can sustain the drain because it is a huge country
where pretty much every young guy plays. Argentina still produces, but
their stitched together national teams with everyone abroad are not
winning at the WC level. That is a sign of strain. As a football
superpower, they should have won another one by now. They are feeling
the strain.

Anyway, let's agree to disagree. It is a complicated intersection of
commerce, freedom to work and national policies, rich versus poor,
etc.

Best,

smt

Yes, this disagreement is definitely ideological between us, but just
a remark about some things you wrote: Yes, age/sex discrimination (and
implicit racial/ethnic discrimination) is very prevalent in USA/Latin
America/Asia/everywhere too, and I was recently hurt by it in one case
and helped by it in another while looking for work in Argentina,
funnily enough.  Also, the smartest kids of a poor country in fact ARE
being cultivated and bought, in a sense, with them going to the US/
Europe for schooling, and often staying there for professional work
("brain drain").  And I think Argentina's lack of success on the world
level has a lot to do with their increasing economic weakness versus
the other big footballing nations, which compounds the problems of
their low population (it has a smaller population than all the major
football powers except Holland).

If Holland can be considered a football power. Argentina is bigger
than Portugal by a fair margin too.

Argentina's Pop: 40,677,348
source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ar..html

relatively the same to

Spain: 40,491,051
source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sp..html

Holland: 16,645,313
source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/nl..html

Portugal: 10,676,910
source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/po..html

 Oh, and also the fact that their star players are all midgets :)

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