Re: Why Did England

On Jul 14, 8:32 pm, SMT <symbiotr...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 14, 6:12 am, eurocampeonte...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:



True. It's certainly not limited to only Spanish influence, but also
to African, French, Portuguese, Brazilian, and Argentinian brilliance.
There's no doubt that the strength of the EPL is in it's foreigners,
with the odd English star here and there, AFAIC.

And Spain's liga has relied on foreigners for a much longer time...
hardly an accusation that holds water. Take out the foreigners out of
the Liga and you'll see what's left. Spain, England, German, France
and and (to a lesser degree) Italy have basically been ransacking
Brazil, Argentina, various African countries, the Slavic countries,
etc. for a long time. To single out England as a particular offender
is ridiculous. And now there is free movement within Europe, so there
is also internal ransacking, or call it the freedom to work. If it's a
good thing in Spain, it must also be a good thing in England.


I agree that the countries you've listed have been ransacking the
leagues form other nations, but I'm not so sure I'd agree that Italy
have been doing it to any lesser degree.
Italy has had a long history (almost as long as Spains) of importing
foreign stars.
It was seen as such a problem in 66 (after the loss to NKorea in the
WC) that further imports were banned for a while. Since the ban was
lifted in the early 80s, there's been a steady stream of world class
imports (Platini, Maradona, van Basten, Zidane, Ronaldo, Viera etc).
It's worth noting that Serie A has the highest % of Ballon D'Or
winners (and the majority weren't Italian). If you look at the current
transfers (and associated rumours), the big Italian clubs are just as
active as their counterparts from Spain and England.
It's all to do with money and prestige. The big clubs have always been
able to offer top dollar and lure away top players from clubs like
Ajax, along with the prospect of regular European football and
success.


Spain used to be a great offender to the Italian way of football, but
that was more because we never won anything, and out of ignorance.
Somehow, I don't think the latter is the reason why the English press
do it, but it truly does encompass the former to some extent. It's
just English arrogance in it's finest. Never do anything noteworthy,
so they need to malign the success of others in order to exalt
themselves.

The English press is sneaky, no question, it is also very commercial
and sensationalist and appeals to the masses by reinforcing their
prejudices. The English sports press is about as bad as the Spanish
sports press, that is, it is crap. There are few exceptions, some of
which have been noted here. Sid Lowe, for example.

Best,

smt

I read the papers to get the results (though increasingly it's more
timely to get it online), but I don't really pay too much attention to
a lot of the articles because they are almost invariably opinion
pieces that have some sort of agenda or recycled rumours (a few
exceptions). I make up my own mind, rather than saying 'The Times says
this, so it must be correct'.
Too many people here take a newspaper article and assume it
reperesents the views of people from (say) England.


.

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