Re: Shaun Perry, diets and snake oil.

BrritSki wrote:
didgerman wrote:
Quick question here for the fitness gurus......
Shaun Perry seems to have lost a fair amount of blubber to keep his place as England's 9. Reading in the press that he was prescribed a diet by one of England's fitness staff Matt Lovell. Perry was put on a diet of no carbs and supplements.
Now, I'm no expert although my own training/diet regime saw me complete an Olympic distance Triathlon in 2.20 {stay out of this mg, you're not equipped}, but the up to date word on the street, backed up by many huge studies is that the Atkins diet is a complete load of ***. Weight loss is a simple equation of calories in, V calories out, that is scientific fact, if big companies could make money out of it we'd hear nothing but this. However, the 'mad' idea of eating less and using more calories just doesn't have that commercial attractiveness that a paperback telling you how to cut out the chips did.....

Yebbut a) the Atkins Diet DOES work for some people for varying periods of time

No it doesn't. What works is cutting calories from your diet and not replacing them, hey presto, weight loss. If you want to cut out carbs alone and thus half your usual calories and call it Atkins or anything else that's your business, but as a theory Atkins is proved beyond any doubt to be a crock of ***.

and b) "no carbs and supplements" is NOT necessarily Atkins.

Atkins is cutting out carbs though isn't it? Lovell has obviously decided this is a good idea for weight loss, whereas if you're entering a period of high exertion it emphatically is not.


Now you may have read more about it than you've posted and it may well have been a variant on Atkins, but a low carb diet is a perfectly good way to lose weight as long as you don't replace the lost calories with something else. Supplements may be useful too.

Yeah fine. Cut carbs if you like, but it's all down to calorie counting, not food groups.


We had friends round for dinner tonight and the lady has bad reactions to various foods which means she essentially eats protein (mainly fish and poultry, vegetables, salads and fruit. She's very fit and active and very slim, too skinny for my tastes, but undeniably healthy and I think I overheard her telling the wife she took some supplements to compensate for some things she doesn't get in her diet. I couldn't face it (as I couldn't face Atkins for long), but it would certainly do the trick !

I seem to have developed allergies to wheat and dairy myself, apparently these things change every 7 years or so. But that's an individual case, as is hers. The fact remains that Atkins is 'woo woo', and weight loss is down to calorie control.


I digress.
The point is. Why are England using someone that believes in 'woo woo' {make believe} diets? And why, when there is now so much evidence against supplementing vitamins and minerals is Lovell exacerbating the situation?
Worse still, Perry is entering a phase of high competition, a period when he'll need his full fitness and he won't get that by cutting out carbs, the fuel your muscles use. It's too late to suddenly start laying on the pasta: your body takes time to build up glycogen reserves to

aren't those reserves held as fat ? :)

their full amount, he's started competing every week, and I guarantee you he'll be shagged half way through the pool games. And it'll be Lovell's fault, and I, a half baked ex-triathlete knew better.

I hope you're wrong, be interesting to see...

I reckon he'll be getting up off the floor with all the grace of a Welsh prop by the pool games. What Lovell has done is lost him some weight, by emptying half the fuel tank, not clever....
Perry was obviously carrying some timber way back in the 6N, so why the hell wasn't he given a long steady blubber burning jogging/bike routine then?
Perhaps the RFU secretary hadn't checked far enough in advance to see if there was anything else this year.......


So if the RFU can get that wrong, what else do they get wrong?

Farrell. Robinson. Player release. Too many games. Play-offs.
Can I stop now ?

Sadly I think the day we can stop worrying about these dimwits is a long way off.....
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