Re: Most Predictable RSRU Subjects (was: England in the Super 14?)


"Ferdi Greyling" <nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4432d2e7.88986295@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:47:10 +1300, "David Keegan" <no@spam> wrote:


<<> I see...separate but equal then? Thanks Ferdi, you make it sound
much
fairer than I was lead to believe.

Keegan..>>

"Seperate but equal" is your term and you should be ashamed for
suggesting it as apartheid was anything but equal. But then - as I
said - you deal in half truths anyway.

Since when is a question a statement? I was only asking for clarification of your explanation of your unique historical past.

As In <<> I see...separate but equal then?>>

Did you miss the question mark, or ignore it?


Go tell the following to your grandfather as well - It was never
equal. But it was always seperate (broadly but don't worry about that
now).

Seperate. Remember that word. It is the operational word. In fact,
apartheid directly translated into English is "seperateness".

Thanks again Ferdi, for the Afrikaner lesson. Here was me thinking apartheid translated into racial segregation and oppression . Seperate sounds much more balanced.


Tell your grandfather the following as well - the term "seperate but
equal" that you seem to want to default to,

Again, only responding to your explanation of the state of Rugby in SA in my Grandfathers day. How else should I interpret this?


Your grandfather was a typical Kiwi. Dealt in half truths. He was
probably (then again, who knows) refering to apartheid - a political
system under which black and white were not allowed to play TOGETHER.
But both were allowed to play - and did.

Same goes for watch - that is they were not allowed to watch TOGETHER
but had to watch seperated from each other.

No mention of a weighted system in that explanation.


Some general advice: You seem to know just enough about history in SA
(and the people who lived in that time) to enable you to make mistakes
that can make you look pretty uninformed.

I'm sure anyone who disagrees with your version of history is uninformed, Ferdi. The Laager mentality, it seems, still exists.


Stick to rugby. And remember that all people in SA were always allowed
to play rugby and to watch it. But seperately. Seperately. Not mixed.

Which brings us back to the question of why the great majority of South Africans supported the All Blacks on their tours of the Republik. Why was that?

Perhaps we should have insisted on black referees.



Thus travelling teams in SA usually played games against black and
"coloured" national teams. They were a lot like the Maori teams in NZ,
but the political context outside the field made them actually very
different from NZ Maori teams.

The same but different. You make telling points. Different I get, but how were they a lot like each other?

Keegan..

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