Re: USC at Grand Challenge
- From: bookie <emily_booker@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:28:51 -0700 (PDT)
On Jul 10, 3:57 pm, J Flory <john.fl...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 9, 6:26 pm, bookie <emily_boo...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 9, 9:01 pm, J Flory <john.fl...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
So how many of the 16 oarsmen in the Boat Race this year were
undergraduates?
just because they are postgraduates does not make them not full time
students, postgrad or undergrad they are still full time students and
there are no rules stating that all the blue boat rowers must be
undergraduates, why should there be?
Relax, this was a simple question, not an attack. Just looking for a
number, but I deduce from the response that most or all were
postgraduates.
AFAIK in the US when you receive a bachelor's degree you can no longer
participate in intercollegiate "varsity" competitions. There may be a
few exceptions. The Harvard/Yale race falls after graduation so
technically the seniors have received their degrees. Harvard has grad
school crews (including Business and Law School boats) but AFAIK they
do not race crews from other universities. There may be other
exceptions, but this is generally true.
It's a pity that grad students here do not have the opportunity to
represent their universities in competition. The alternatives are to
put their careers on hold and try for the National Team, to race for a
club, or to forget competing. In many sports these will be the most
effective years of their lives, and grad school allows time
flexibility that undergrads just do not have.
When I was an undergrad school was difficult for me so I had no time
for anything more than intramural rowing and some running. As a grad
student, I was a bicycle roadracer (no water available for rowing) and
competed for a local club. There was no possibility to compete for
the school even if there had been a school team. National Team was
out of the question but somehow managed to find the time to train to
race at Category 1 level. Cycling was probably not a good choice
because riding 350-400 miles/week takes more time than many other
sports, and it probably lengthened the time it took me to get my
degree.
as far as i know from the website there were just 3 of this years
cambridge blue boat who were undergrads, toby garnett, colin scott and
one other, the stroke man i think. there will have been more in the
goldie boat because that is usually seen as a development boat.
it is a shame that in your country post grads are not allowed to race
for thei universities, sometimes some athletes have not achieved the
right level of skill or strength or even self discipline to really be
effective oarsmen durign their undergraduate years, i know i certainly
did not have those things during my undergarduate years at cambridge,
i was far too busy having fun, doing other college based stuff and
being generally unfocussed (yes there are exceptions i know, better
people than me i am sure). i only achieved the self discipline
required to be part of CUWBC when i was older as a postgrad student
but had i been at a US uni i take it that i woudl not have been able
to do this.
It is also a shame as it probably denies many postgrad studenst the
opportunity to do their chosen sport and to represent their uni.
Certainly if you are dealing with the stresses of research work it can
be extremely beneficial to be able to participate in a sport,
competitive or not depending on your skill level or personal
preference, and to release pent up stress and energy that way and to
relax and have somethign other than work to focus on in your life
which can only help you in your academic work if approached correctly.
alot of rowers seem to move to cycling dont they? not really keen
myself, but then my legs are probably far too short to reach the
pedals on any race bike anyway.
.
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