Re: (OT) Hey AoGLP...


"David E. Powell" <David_Powell3006@xxxxxxx> wrote in message news:a21129b2-53da-47d5-8470-b70209db7e8a@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Sep 7, 7:14 pm, "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!"
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"Acolyte Of Glorious La Parka~" <tita...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in messagenews:ga0jv4$qq9$1@xxxxxxxxxxx

> "Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback!" <lord...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in > message
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>> Are you at all familiar with the Canadiana? She was a mid sized >> passenger
>> ship that used to shuttle people between Buffalo, NY and Crystal Beach,
>> Ontario, Canada.
>>http://www.olm1.com/~wny/buffalo/canadiana.html
>>http://www.olm1.com/~wny/buffalo/canadiana/graphics/docked.jpg

> Nope. not familiar with her. My 'specialty' is transAtlantic liners.
> None of the books etc. that I've read ever cover the 'local' steamers, > so
> I know virtually nothing of any of them.

I myself don't know much other than the Buffalo - Crystal Beach thing. As I
said mostly a local celebrity.

>> Anyhoo, I saw her engine today.
>>http://www.olm1.com/~wny/buffalo/canadiana/graphics/engine.jpg
>> It's a vertical three cylinder steam engine and is about the size of a
>> small house (the pic doesn't do it justice). I don't know any specifics
>> other than the crankshaft is about 8" in diameter. It's sitting >> sideways
>> on some timber cribbing in the back field of the local steam & old farm
>> equip club.
>>http://alexandersteamshow.com/index.htm

> Sounds like an old triple -expansion engine (steam from the 1st cylinder
> is 'reused' in the 2nd & third cylinders), same (albeit on a smaller
> scale) then TITANIC.

Probably so. FWIW the same concept was used on Mallet compound steam
locomotives, the most famous of which is probably the Norfolk & Western Y6B
(with 39" low pressure cylinders!). While great luggers the design proved
overly complicated so most articulated steamers were later built with high
pressure steam in all four (or in a few cases six) cylinders.

>> I imagine (hope) that they plan on restoring it to running condition, >> or
>> at least cosmetically.

> That depends on what funding they get. Right now the old NOMADIC (the
> tender that brought 1st class passengers to the TITANIC & OLYMPIC in
> Cherbourgh, France) has been brought back to Belfast with the intent of
> restoring her as a historical site, but if they don't get the funding > for
> restoration, she'll be scrapped. It's all about the benjamins (n.
> Shelton).

Actually with these guys it's more a matter of time. The club has 1300+
members and how much they volunteer determines how much gets done. The
Canadiana engine looked complete and the top end was shrink wrapped so I'm
guessing it's mostly a matter of hammering out some "arthritis", oiling her
up, and finding enough boiler to supply the steam. They do have a good many
other projects going but I can't imagine them letting this treasure sit idle
for very long.

That funding problem IS why they have the engine in the first place tho as
the group who was trying to save the entire ship did in fact drain their
coffers.

LG (hopes to hear her chug again)

I hear some of the best triple expansion engines are on the USS Texas.
I could be wrong.

Not sure if USS Olympia in Philly has engine room tours available.

Philadelphia may be the best city in the US to see ship stuff.

USS Olympia and a WW2 US Sub at the Penn's Landing area.
Across the river, in Camden, NJ the battleship USS New Jersey

The dry docked SS United States (Liner) <-- I saw a PBS show on that a while back.

The Philadelphia Mothball Fleet facility (A Helo carrier until
recently, other ships, and the 8 inch gun heavy cruiser USS Des
Moines.)

~~~~
Sweet! Buffalo has a Naval Park featuring:
USS Little Rock - missle cruiser
USS Sullivans - destroyer (named for the Sullivan bros, all five of whom died in the same attack and brought about the rule that siblings cannot serve on the same ship)
USS Croaker - WWII diesel sub
a PT boat, tank, jet, helo, etc., and a damn fine museum

I was there last week but unfortunately didn't have the time to go through it again (it's been about 15 years since I last went). I want to get back up there, and also down to Cleveland to see the USS Cod submarine and the William G. Mather lake freighter.

Also, if you're ever in Portsmouth, NH take the time to go through the USS Albacore submarine. The photos of them "parking" her alone are worth it...

LG (railfan... honest!)
--
"The United States is like a giant boiler. When the fire is finally lighted under it, there is no limit to the power it can generate." - Winston Churchill

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